j shizzy wizzy

who here believes the story as we know it and who thinks there is much more to the story that we don't know?

here's an interesting vid....one of many

HOW DID WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 FALL? - YouTube

smokinjoe73

I was right across the river from the trade centers, my now wife then girlfriend was on wall street at work. I tried to bicycle to get her but they wouldnt let me. I had to wait at the brooklyn bridge for hours for her. It prompted me to marry her(life is too short)

I dont think it happened on its own. I am a conspiracy theorist. Too many other buildings fell on their own, etc. I had my police scanner going the whole time & there were alot of secondary explosions unaccounted for.

The fire burnt for 8 months and covered my neighborhood with human ash for that long. It stank like burning flesh the whole time.

inderocker

If that building was brought down via planned demolition you would of seen and heard multiple explosion before it went down. Like this...
1515 flagler building collapses (at around 1:00 ) - YouTube

killer5280

Inside job.
Here's an amusing video of BBC correspondent Jane Standley reporting on the collapse of WTC 7 unaware that it is still standing behind her. When it came time for the building to "collapse" her satellite feed mysteriously faded out just in time to keep the BBC from airing an embarrassing moment of having a building "collapse" live on air that was already reported to have collapsed.
Steel framed skyscrapers do not collapse at free fall speed in symmetrical fashion due to fires. Never have. Never will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

captainchaos

You mean like the numerous descriptions from firefighters of that very thing in the twin towers?

Without sitting up all night and getting into details my 2 cents is that there are too many things that happened that day (and leading up to that day) that are suspect. And that makes everything that happened that day suspect. Like what? Do some research-the internet is a wonderful place if you can sift throught the bullshit. Since when has any other event in history like this one been as it seemed on the surface? I don't claim to know exactly the what and why, but like anything else I know the version we get skull frigged into our heads over the news is certainly not the full truth. God bless everyone who perished on that day, and anyone who lost friends and family there.

inderocker

I have serious doubts small fires brought down that building. Is it not possible that the seismic waves generated by two adjacent, 110 story, 500,000 ton buildings could of weakened the WTC 7, causing it to eventually collapse. I was watching something a few days ago that said the collapsing towers were picked up on a Richter scale 20+ miles away. I highly doubt New York has the same building codes as California.
Just sayin'....

killer5280

No. It's not possible.

NH-Raptor

It wasn't just the fires. Hit a building with an object that size going that fast (estimated 500MPH) there will be a massive amount of structural damage. Add in thousands of gallons jet fuel (the terroists chose planes going coast to coast so they'd be full of fuel) and those fires become very intense. The third factor which spelled doom was with that damage and the heat of the fires the weight of the building above the fires would eventually bring the buildings down. As proof the second building to get hit fell first but it was hit lower down the side. Damage, heat and more weight.

A few more thoughts. What is truely amazing is they took that impact and didn't fall right away! Good construction and design. Their fall registered on the Richter scale here in New Hampshire over 150 miles away not just 20 miles. The final thought is in the form of a question. Why would our government do it? I need a good answer here that can supercede physics, metallurgy, and structural design elements.

PUSHrod

Can we please return to the denial that man actually walked on the moon? There are new photographs of the tracks and equipment that MUST be discredited. Once that is accomplished the work on more earthbound conspiracies can recommence.

Old Yeller

+1 People believe anything. If it's on the internet it must be true, right?

nothing

Well I don't think any of us are visiting the moon anytime soon anyways.. so who cares about it? I don't. Thanks for the ocean tides!

Moving on, here I agree with NH raptor (not just because we're both from NH) because physics just explains it. Maybe there were additional bombs planted by terrorists in the buildings, who knows. Those may account for the extra explosions. The buildings didn't begin collapsing at their bases (for all I've seen/know).

As for the BBC reporter, well I didn't watch the video due to me being here at work, but I think it could have been staged. Again, I didn't watch the video but if she is legitimately live on scene and saying that then I'm going to take up drinking for a hobby..

Mike Heffernan

I worked in tower four from 1996 until 9/11. I was in the financial industry then, but have been in construction since 2003. I'm not a structural engineer, but I work with engineers and architects every day and have some knowledge of how buildings work. The whole trade center complex sat on top of an underground mall that connected all seven towers. That mall sat on top of a giant subway complex, so the structure of the whole complex extended way underground. There was back-up power in all those buildings, meaning generators with diesel tanks or huge natural gas supplies, plus all the underground utilities. Tons of perfectly reasonable explanations for lots of secondary explosions, plus very intense fires probably burning deep underground that wouldn't be visible in street level shots of the buildings. I can easily see how that could have led to collapse of the structural elements at the very bottom of the other buildings and caused them to fall, pretty much within their own footprint. All of the above is conjecture on my part, but then again the conspiracy theories are all conjecture on the part of someone else, and this is what I believe.

Old Yeller

Hey, Mike Heffernan. Are you Doug's brother? His wife is hot! LOL

Tormoz

+1.

Amen to that.

Old Yeller

Man actually did get to the moon. It was proven by the scientists on Big Bang Theory TV show on CBS. They were able to bounce signal off an antenna left by Apollo austronauts.

nekkid