NHSH

I don't see a reason for the carb' springs to ice up... In a very cold winter you still get good amount of heat between the cylinders and carb's area to melt an iceberg. unless off course if you riding in Antarctica or Siberia at -70c, then you may have a whole other range of issues like fuel freezing and other

I support E.Marquez on that, return cables causing more problems then help in anyway, seen that countless times.

If you ever experience an open throttle stuck, well, just use kill switch and clutch as needed.


On another note and as a good practical quick response, get yourself use to ride with one finger on the front brake and one finger on the clutch at all times, trust me when I say, this will increase your response time significantly. I guess that comment should have been on another thread for skills.

CruxGNZ

Wow...what did I start with asking about the stiffer spring haha.

How? By replacing it. Thought that would be obvious Ace Hardware has all kinds of springs available, however, I like 7's idea of just winding it up a turn or two. Now, the why? Just for added assurance that the throttle will close when you let go. That was all I was thinking about the matter. Of course you have the kill switch within thumbs reach, so no big deal.

However, the more you think about it, the spring that is on there had to pull and push two cables when you let off the throttle, and with one cable removed that duty is well, cut in half. So, the stock spring is just fine.

I was to quick to post a question without even thinking it through.

thedeatons

Thanks for correcting me wyldryce. I was actually laying in bed last night thinking i had posted the wrong information, but i figured someone would correct me by morning

I personally wouldn't stress the return spring anymore by wrapping it another turn. Just let it do what it's supposed to do, and like you said, it now has less force to return with one less cable

James

7moore7

Yeah but nothing you can't return to stock if you don't want to. I've done it unintentionally and figured out how to put the spring back on without even examining it prior.

If it was a high priority mod I know where to get a custom spring made, but we're talking this thing would seriously have to be a benefit to chase that one down.

thetophatflash

The icing happens, in my case at about 28 degrees F and 35mph. The icing was on the throttle plate shafts aka "butterflies". A small amount of moisture froze under the wind chill effects. The solution was to fire up a space heater in the garage to "kill" the moisture at night. Problem solved.

NHSH

I'm assuming you didn't start the bike due to this icing, cause if you did and let it run for few minutes, it should have been warm up enough to melt the icing.
I never seen that happen, but what do I know... never lived in Seattle, all I know about it is Nirvana and lots of rain

thetophatflash

It happened after an overnight in an unheated garage when I pulled out for my commute and fired her up. every thing seemed normal until I got rolling at about 35mph. And no it didn't evaporate immediately. I had been in heavy rain the day before and there must have been a residual amount of water. The wind chill was very effective!

smokinjoe73

I had the freezing after a downpour ride then the temp dropped like 35* and EVERYTHING froze solid. Choke, throttle, ignition, everything. HAD to get to work and the hairdryer did nothing. Only warm water melted everything. Then the ride dried it off.

Hey phat, did you have the throttle actually stick open while riding? Seems super unlikely. Even if you did, you had no problem safety wise right? Even my fully frozen bike didnt do those things.

So I dont think removing the cable is any risk. The planets have to line up for that.

NHSH

You said that happen on a 1968 CB 350, I can totally see that, the CB 350 carb' components are very exposed to the elements and weather and the carb's are not situated between two large cylinder heads, as such on the SH it is still very unlikely to ever happen which is what I meant to say on my first post on this thread, all though again, maybe under similar unique extreme conditions it is possible, in any case, on most sport bikes the return cables are more of a cause for annoyance then benefit.

Aquasnake

Though..... return cables do make great emergency replacements when ones opening cable breaks at @ 2am on the 5fwy right outside of Six Flags Magic Mountain....... Hasn't happened on the Hawk, hopefully never, (knock on wood), but back in the late 80's, on my old Kawi Z1, as I was coming back from watching the races at the San Jose mile. Also cooked the battery on that ride. The Kaws orig R/R didn't do so well when running at sustained high rpm...

smokinjoe73

Aqua, that is a good point, although I dont know how easy that would be on the hawk, I plan to simply zip tie a backup cable next to the pull cable. Just so its there.