I think i siezed my engine please help
 

so at an open house yesterday I was in the burnout pit I started to do a burnout brought it up to about 9000rpm and the bike shut down like it was out of gas. It started right back up and did the same think again. Then it was like the batterry was dead. When looking around the bike i did not see any oil in the sight glass I had to lean the bike almost all the way over to see anything. I put two quarts of oil in it and it was at a good level. so I put a jumper pack on, it it turned over fired once for a few seconds and now is locked up. I pulled the starter off that is working but when I try to start it it just clicks (when the starter is installed) I tried pop starting it in every gear and nothing it just drags the back tire. Please if anyone has any insight on this help me out My super chicken is my life I am crushed right now. thank you
Ethan

Step 1)
Pull the fly-wheel cap off(center of left side engine cover) and put a socket on the bolt(crank) and see if you can rotate it counter clockwise. If it can, your engine is not seized.
Step 2)
Make sure battery has 12-14 volts.
Step 3)
Pull spark plugs and see if it will spin over. If it does, it is not seized.
Step 4)
Do a compression test. If you have low pressure, you may have bigger problems. Rings, cylinder wear, valves(if they are ticking).....

Hope these quick tests help.

And for some non helpful info: 9000 RPM is too high for our bike, you have a late 90's V-Twin not a I4.

Thank you motojoe i will try that, I know 9000rpm is up there but I couoldn't let the dirty harley rider beat me in a smoke show comp, my bad I will pay for it.

Smoke show
 

Please let us know how this turns out. ;)

While I don't think burn outs are very good for the bike 9K RPM is not a big deal for this motor.

The factory rev limiter kicks in at 10.3k RPM and you can bounce it off the limiter all day long and not hurt anything, that is the purpose of the limiter. My motor has spent a bit of time over 9k rpm and I have hit the rev limiter multiple times with no damage to my motor. Though I wouldn't recommend doing it while the motor is 2 qts. low on oil.

The first step is as motojoe stated, remove the center plug on the flywheel cover and try to rotate the motor by hand. Then if it does spin follow the rest of the list and let us know what you find.

he starved it of oil,that was his admission.
r.i.p.
9k is not a big deal,i ran mine against zx11's and hayabusa's with no ill effects.
keep your eye on these sites for a replacement engine.

In the future just check your oil every time you get gas takes all of about 2 seconds and is good insurance.

I've run mine low on a few times. Haven't done a 9 grand burnout with it like that. It's still running fine

9,000 rpm is no big deal when under load, pushing the weight of bike and rider. 9k rpm with no load, however, is like running a test to see how long it takes before it blows. And standing up while letting the rear tire burn is just about a no load situation.

My '05 burns maybe 1/2 a quart, mabe a bit less every 1000 miles - how about you guys?

JB

I'd guess it's all about running the bike without half its oil and not much about a high rev burnout. If the bike had 2 quarts in the crank case when he checked, I doubt it had 4 quarts the day, week or month before.

About the same with mine, which is also an '05.

Several times when I was teaching Vocational Automotives, I had a customer come in for a tune-up or scope diagnosis or whatever, and they had 1 quart or less in their engine. I'm sure longevity had to be affected, but they ran fine when they left the shop. And one of those was a 4 year old Civic, a 1984 I think, with 40,000 miles. The customer had bought it new and never had the oil changed. Just put gas in it and drove it for 4 years.

I love stories like that. 40k miles and it only used 4 quarts of oil. That's pretty good. I'll bet that last quart was nasty. I would have saved it and had it analyzed just for fun.

Long ago I saw a segment on TV of a guy who hadn't changed his oil in many years. Once a year he'd drain it, strain it through an old tee shirt and pour it back in. He was pretty pleased with himself too. You'd think he'd discovered penicillin or cold fusion or something.

People crack me up.

RK, You should have seen the plugs....practically no ground electrode left. One of my former students, a 70 year old guy, had suggested she take it in for a tune-up.

Reminds me of a conversation my uncle had with my grandpa when he sold an old dodge omni for him with 200k miles (slant 6) years ago..

Uncle: "So Dad, how often did you change the oil?"
Grandpa: "Oil?"

I am sure it got changed at some point, but never consciously.

Slant 6....now that brings back memories. Bulletproof engine. But if one quit running and you suspected the timing chain, you'd better check the distributor drive gear first...it's made out of plastic, $5 part.

OH oh, :threadjack: Sorry, I hope you get your bike running again soon. I know what it's like to be without your bike.

I've got a '95 F-150 4X4. Bought it new on Independence Day 1995. Got about a quarter million miles on it. Still runs as good as the day I bought it. I think I've replaced the plugs three times. I do check the oil level every Sunday and change it every 4k miles.

It's the 4.9 liter (300 cu. in.) straight six. Gear driven cam and built like a Russian brick shit house. Except for those three sets of plugs, it's cost me absolutely nothing. I expect to get at least another 250k miles out of it.

That reminds me... since it's been 50 or 60 thousand miles I should probably take a look at those spark plugs.

Had an uncle who bought cars new and drove them. Gas only... maybe air in the tires. Pulled various camping trailers with them, too. Got 80,000 miles out of a 67 Impala and almost 100,000 from an Olds 88, but I wouldn't have bought a used car from him.
On thread... Hondas will run and rev with little oil in them... coolant can be low too. Might get many miles out of them, but you might NOT. Nothing wrong with shredding a tire now and then tho! My '02 uses almost no oil...actually makes me nervous, since in my Civic I just change the filter and add new!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4135858_n.jpgHERE IS A PIC OF THE BURN OUT

I see what went wrong now, you aren't looking where you are going...

well damn!....theres the problem!

superhawks run best with the front wheel in the air.

At first I thought the problem was you locking up the back brake before you ran into that sign, but it looks like the Helmet/goggle detector cutout switch might have saved your life. They're a bitch to reset though!

I've done a couple hundred miles on my SH so far and there is no burn at all, is something up? I was always under the impression that: no burn = :)

Less than that.. Not measurable between oil changes for me. Yruyur's however burns some (very little), and mine has about 3 times the miles that his does. (60,000 vs 20,000) Probably different break in procedures between the original owners.

Nothing to worry about if you can live with whatever yours eats.

I know mine spent about half the time in the air.

and the other half parallel with the street...

:shocker: It's because it's not red!!! :spank:

lol

My '03 uses about 4 oz. every 1000 miles. So I'd have to go about 16,000 miles without bothering to check the oil level to be 2 quarts down.

Since I don't do redline/burnouts, I guess I'd still be fine. I check my oil level at least once a week anyhow. I guess I'm just the overly cautious type. But then again I've traveled over a million miles with various bikes, cars and trucks I've owned and never seized an engine.