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TboneNast 05-05-2014 12:44 AM

The finer points of cowl "body clips"?
 
Howdy All,

So this weekend I performed my first round of maintenance on the new-to-me superhawk:

Clutch & Brakes drained and refilled with Lucas DOT4
Oil Changed with Honda OEM filter and Mobil 1 10w-40 4T oil

I also ordered two body clips for the lower front fairing because they were missing. These snapped in with no issues, but they do have a phillips type screw head on them.

My question is; on these body clips, do I screw them "in" to lock them? Or just push in and "unscrew" to pop them out? I don't want to break off any of the plastic tabs on these clips, just want to know how to use them properly.

Thanks!

Wicky 05-05-2014 01:25 AM

Yes screw them in though I found they are a disposable one-time-use only item as they yet mushed when removing and thus dispensed with using them - same for the two under the rear cowling.

comedo 05-05-2014 06:19 AM

The original plastic rivets on my 2001 VTR took just a quarter turn to get them seated. The Honda replacements I've purchased recently were fully threaded and took a number of turns to seat. The rivets have Phillips heads but I've found that a very small flat-bladed screwdriver works better to install and remove them. I've been able to use them more than once.

cybercarl 05-05-2014 07:38 AM

The right tool for the job helps when removing trim clips. They are technically not threaded but have ridges so they grip. The idea is that the centre pin is pushed in which pushes the prongs outwards on the outer part so they spread out which holds the fairing in place. The screwdriver slot is only there to aid removal. Turn slightly and they raise enough to get a trim clip tool under. No need to use a screwdriver when inserting them. Just pull the centre part out enough so the prongs fit in the hole and push the centre part back in. They only get broken when the wrong tool is used to remove them, though they do wear down the more times they are removed and put back in.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Snap-On-Panel...Z6w~~60_35.JPG

(:-})

TboneNast 05-07-2014 03:06 PM

After a few days of enjoying very stable fairings, it appears I've lost one of the clips. Perhaps the bracket wasn't aligned just right or I came down from a wheelie too hard?

Anyway, rather than pay BikeBandit another $1.26 plus $7 shipping, I zip-tied it. I'd say it gives about 85% - 90% of the stability that the OEM Clip does. I'll probably go this route from now on.

http://s12.postimg.org/r7hdd5gv1/clip3.jpg

http://s12.postimg.org/w4uxy9iu5/clip1.jpg

Jack Flash 05-07-2014 05:12 PM

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TboneNast 05-07-2014 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Flash (Post 372411)
My solution to this problem

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That's pretty sweet, reusable too! Where'd you get that fastener/pin?

Wolverine 05-07-2014 07:10 PM

I've had these clips in and out several times over the years. As you screw the phillips in it expands the rear of the clip securing it in place. I was always real careful not to over tighten and bugger the threads. And to remove, I always backed out the screw just enough that the rear could be pulled through without the screw coming out, never a need for a pry tool.
http://images.gasgoo.com/MiMwMDRfMDA...01-s04-003.jpg

And... great choice on oil, seriously. I've found nothing better. :D

TboneNast 05-07-2014 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 372425)
I've had these clips in and out several times over the years. As you screw the phillips in it expands the rear of the clip securing it in place. I was always real careful not to over tighten and bugger the threads. And to remove, I always backed out the screw just enough that the rear could be pulled through without the screw coming out, never a need for a pry tool.
http://images.gasgoo.com/MiMwMDRfMDA...01-s04-003.jpg

And... great choice on oil, seriously. I've found nothing better. :D

Those look much more robust and easy to use - where can one in the US order them?

Wolverine 05-09-2014 08:16 PM

Not sure TBone. I just wanted to show the threads and what they expand behind the clip edge. The pic is from gasgoo.com., not our OEM obviously.

Jack Flash 05-10-2014 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by TboneNast (Post 372421)
That's pretty sweet, reusable too! Where'd you get that fastener/pin?

I sell them in my line of work.

bmidd 05-10-2014 07:46 AM

Nothing says race bike like zip ties!

TboneNast 06-29-2014 09:06 PM

Jack Flash sent me some of his karting "nassau panel clips". They worked out really well!

Just drill out the existing bracket holes to 3/8 or 7/16 (or 10 mm for the metric folks) and squeeze, stuff, and cram the rubber grommets into their new home.

The nylock nut and washer go on the inside of the fairing/cowl lip and really stabilize the lower fairing much better than those cheap plastic push-pins.

http://s27.postimg.org/i6ayk04hv/IMG_0656.jpg

http://s27.postimg.org/xqicajemb/IMG_0657.jpg

sjscicluna 06-29-2014 09:45 PM

looking good

smokinjoe73 06-29-2014 09:50 PM

You mean there are supposed to be fairing stays down there?

Aw man you don't need those.

I guess mine stabilizes since I have a full lower fairng to bolt to.


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