Coolant question for track use
04-08-2010, 09:34 AM
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Coolant question for track use
For those of you that do occassional track days, do you just keep something like water wetter in your system all the time? or do you flush out the ethylene glycol based coolant before a track event and then refill after?
Are there down sides to using water wetter in terms of corrosion prevention? My bike really doesn't see freezing temps.
Are there differences between water wetter, engine ice, purple ice that matter?
One of my bikes I used more fro track but also on the road and just want to be prepared but not put the system at risk re: rust/corrosion
thanks
Are there down sides to using water wetter in terms of corrosion prevention? My bike really doesn't see freezing temps.
Are there differences between water wetter, engine ice, purple ice that matter?
One of my bikes I used more fro track but also on the road and just want to be prepared but not put the system at risk re: rust/corrosion
thanks
04-08-2010, 11:55 AM
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04-08-2010, 12:27 PM
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i dont see a problem with running water with water wetter full time if you never get freezing temps.
as far as corrosion, this is lited as a feature of of it:
ive heard good things about engine ice, but its still slippery, supposedly not as bad as the regular stuff though. running water is really just a favor to other on the track. if you go down and dump coolant, they dont have to close the track to clean it up.
as far as corrosion, this is lited as a feature of of it:
Rust and corrosion protection allows for use of straight water in racing or reduced antifreeze levels in warm climates
04-21-2010, 10:50 AM
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havent been back on here in a longggg time but i run distilled water + water wetter full time right now. dont see too much of a difference except that the fans have a much easier job cooling the coolant down compared to antifreeze. doesnt make the track uber slick if you dump coolant haha.
am considering going over to engine ice now that my 1 year is approaching. i intend to change the coolant out annually with something other than regular antifreeze. might do straight distilled water one of these days just to see.
another factor is that i have pets, engine ice is marketed as pet/bio friendly as it is made from propylene glycol. PG is the only allowed antifreeze in switzerland or something, because ethylene glycol (EG, the regular green stuff) is toxic as hell.
here's the msds for redline's water wetter that i found from a bmw forum:
Redline Water Wetter's MSDS:
Dilsopropyl alcohol ether: 1-40%
Tri isopropyl alcohol diether: 1-40%
Sodium molybdate: 2-10%
Tolyltriazole: 1-3%
Polysiloxane polymer: n/a
(there are CAS#'s for those)
Some more interesting bits of info:
Trade name: RED LINE WaterWetter
chemical name: glycol ether mixture
specific gravity: 1.09
Water solubility: miscible @ 25C
odor: faint odor
stable: yes
incompatibility: strong acids, oxidizing agents
polymerization: will not occur
thermal decomposition: oxides of carbon including carbon monoxide
Ventilation: recommended
gloves: rubber gloves recommended
am considering going over to engine ice now that my 1 year is approaching. i intend to change the coolant out annually with something other than regular antifreeze. might do straight distilled water one of these days just to see.
another factor is that i have pets, engine ice is marketed as pet/bio friendly as it is made from propylene glycol. PG is the only allowed antifreeze in switzerland or something, because ethylene glycol (EG, the regular green stuff) is toxic as hell.
here's the msds for redline's water wetter that i found from a bmw forum:
Redline Water Wetter's MSDS:
Dilsopropyl alcohol ether: 1-40%
Tri isopropyl alcohol diether: 1-40%
Sodium molybdate: 2-10%
Tolyltriazole: 1-3%
Polysiloxane polymer: n/a
(there are CAS#'s for those)
Some more interesting bits of info:
Trade name: RED LINE WaterWetter
chemical name: glycol ether mixture
specific gravity: 1.09
Water solubility: miscible @ 25C
odor: faint odor
stable: yes
incompatibility: strong acids, oxidizing agents
polymerization: will not occur
thermal decomposition: oxides of carbon including carbon monoxide
Ventilation: recommended
gloves: rubber gloves recommended
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