new Db regulations proposed in NH
01-22-2009, 10:20 AM
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new Db regulations proposed in NH
hey all,
so i know there is an almost identical thread going on right now concerning noise levels. I don't want to jack the other thread...just trying to be courteous, so if the two have to be merged, so be it.
i was cruising the local news and came across this:
http://www.wmur.com/news/18539073/detail.html
i bought my rig with a pair of jardine RT-One cans on it and have no idea what kind of DB's they put out. My question is will they be below the proposed 99db law and what's the easiest way to find out...just a cheap db meter? is that something that a shop would address during inspection?
Now for the rant part...Why in the HELL would you try to impose a law like this when Laconia Bike Week is such a huge source of revenue for the state? My guess is that they're thinking if they instate the new $1000 fine, it won't deter people from coming. Anyone they bag for loud pipes will be paying 70% more in fines...governmental greed? sounds like it to me! I'm hoping that the shot callers in my state decide that this is a complete hair-brained idea and don't continue doing anything in their power to deter riders from coming to my fair home state
so i know there is an almost identical thread going on right now concerning noise levels. I don't want to jack the other thread...just trying to be courteous, so if the two have to be merged, so be it.
i was cruising the local news and came across this:
http://www.wmur.com/news/18539073/detail.html
i bought my rig with a pair of jardine RT-One cans on it and have no idea what kind of DB's they put out. My question is will they be below the proposed 99db law and what's the easiest way to find out...just a cheap db meter? is that something that a shop would address during inspection?
Now for the rant part...Why in the HELL would you try to impose a law like this when Laconia Bike Week is such a huge source of revenue for the state? My guess is that they're thinking if they instate the new $1000 fine, it won't deter people from coming. Anyone they bag for loud pipes will be paying 70% more in fines...governmental greed? sounds like it to me! I'm hoping that the shot callers in my state decide that this is a complete hair-brained idea and don't continue doing anything in their power to deter riders from coming to my fair home state
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01-22-2009, 10:41 AM
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After one hundred and five years of turning petrol into noise without the benefit of horsepower, citizens have become fed up with 'mercan iron riders and started complaining to the lawmakers. In the interest of job security, lawmakers made laws, et voila, les gendarme have another tool in the box with which to extract revenue.
Wearing expressions of smug superiority, the electorate return to 'American Idol' re-runs, the elected return to their re-election campaign planning, the law-enforcement staff searches catalogs for db meters to buy and the vendors at Laconia (and Daytona, and Sturgis) order the new stickers to put upon faux helmets. The issue isn't really about us, WE are reasonable, it's about social control in our culture.
On a tangent, what actually annoys the lay ear isn't really the open pipe, but the firing cadence of a 45 degree twin doing right wrist tune ups or a 600cc IL four at full high hertz wail. Our 90 degree V has perfect primary balance and perfectly paced firing order, meaning that at normal traffic velocities the S'hawk with aftermarket pipes goes mostly unnoticed. After all, how many Ducati's do you see pulled over for loud pipes?
Yes, I understand the point of your rant, and feel the same way, but my TBR pipes can't get me arrested as a miscreant, they sound so pretty.
Wearing expressions of smug superiority, the electorate return to 'American Idol' re-runs, the elected return to their re-election campaign planning, the law-enforcement staff searches catalogs for db meters to buy and the vendors at Laconia (and Daytona, and Sturgis) order the new stickers to put upon faux helmets. The issue isn't really about us, WE are reasonable, it's about social control in our culture.
On a tangent, what actually annoys the lay ear isn't really the open pipe, but the firing cadence of a 45 degree twin doing right wrist tune ups or a 600cc IL four at full high hertz wail. Our 90 degree V has perfect primary balance and perfectly paced firing order, meaning that at normal traffic velocities the S'hawk with aftermarket pipes goes mostly unnoticed. After all, how many Ducati's do you see pulled over for loud pipes?
Yes, I understand the point of your rant, and feel the same way, but my TBR pipes can't get me arrested as a miscreant, they sound so pretty.
01-22-2009, 10:45 AM
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This is just the tip of the iceberg, and is part of a multi pronged approach to tax and penalize every conceivable human activity. Noise laws, environmental laws, gun laws, etc. are going to be coming at us hard and fast at federal, state and local levels. Get ready.
01-22-2009, 02:40 PM
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01-22-2009, 04:30 PM
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99 DB is quite loud. I my local offroad (dirtbike) racing org. you need to be below 96 DB. The problem with DB testing is doing it properly. 99 DB would have to be at a certian rpm and a certian angle witch would be different for every model bike. I see it as useless legislation that would be near impossible to enforce and certianly never hold up in court. Probably any stock bike would blow over 99 DB at full throttle but the test needs to be done at somthing like 50% of redline, this being the part different for every bike.
01-23-2009, 03:45 AM
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i bought my rig with a pair of jardine RT-One cans on it and have no idea what kind of DB's they put out. My question is will they be below the proposed 99db law and what's the easiest way to find out...just a cheap db meter? is that something that a shop would address during inspection?
01-23-2009, 07:16 AM
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02-04-2009, 04:19 PM
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i live in the land of harleys and idiots on 1800cc metric hogs that run three miles an hour with the clutch pulled in racking the hell out of thieir straight pipes. since most of them are weekend warriors who are lawyers and other high paid pillers of the community nothing is ever done about them. but let a 19yr old rev his 600gsxr to close for comfort and bet the laws will harasse him to no end. if such a law was passed here it would only be selectivly enforced.
02-08-2009, 06:16 PM
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02-08-2009, 07:00 PM
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This is just one more way the government is trying to take our freedom. I believe if this law does get passed it will be a selectively enforced, especially where I live. I like loud engines, but I can see were it can get to loud, but still don't think the law should be passed. and if it ever does get passed the db levels will just keep getting lower and lower.
02-08-2009, 07:44 PM
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Guys, chill a little. We have to sound test our dirt bikes at certain events and be at or below 98 DBa. My Stock Exhaust CRF450R is dead on 98 DB and it is way the heck louder than my 4 year old Jardine slip-ons. The loud crappy hardley riders are going to have the worst time with this.
That is not say that the local PoPo can't pull you over an give you greive for loud pipes.
That is not say that the local PoPo can't pull you over an give you greive for loud pipes.
02-08-2009, 08:47 PM
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So what the F#@* do they want?
02-09-2009, 06:11 AM
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02-09-2009, 06:29 AM
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http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...09/HB0095.html
"No person shall operate a motorcycle which has a measured noise level of more than 95 decibels when measured on the decibel meter when measured 20 inches from the exhaust pipe at a 45 degree angle while the engine is operating at 2800 revolutions per minute for one and two cylinder motorcycles..."
Would also make it illegal to ride a bike without a tachometer. Lots of cruisers don't even have tachometers.
Surprise Surprise! The bill is co-sponsored by three Democrats. Hope and Change!
"No person shall operate a motorcycle which has a measured noise level of more than 95 decibels when measured on the decibel meter when measured 20 inches from the exhaust pipe at a 45 degree angle while the engine is operating at 2800 revolutions per minute for one and two cylinder motorcycles..."
Would also make it illegal to ride a bike without a tachometer. Lots of cruisers don't even have tachometers.
Surprise Surprise! The bill is co-sponsored by three Democrats. Hope and Change!
02-09-2009, 06:57 AM
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^don't let that turn you away man, just think of how many bikes there will be up there with loud pipes. i'd personally say the cops will be lenient around the actual rally area, just don't dick around with the exhaust notes.
02-09-2009, 08:09 AM
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Then they locked up...I did not speak out... etc. etc.... When they came for me and my 2 into 1 with the Blue Flame can, there was no one left to speak out."
You know what really annoys me? Fat people who chew with their mouths open. And people who say "uh" or "ya know" every 5 or 6 words. Should I demand a new law so I can call the cops on them?
I'm supposed to be liberal and tolerant about all the things that annoy me, but things I enjoy must be banned, regulated or taxed to death?
Where's the love?
Can't we all just get along?
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