captainchaos

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/May/080526a.htm

In other words superbike is going to be another gsxr750 cup....I know there's a 140 hp limit but even so, who the hell it going to run any of those other bikes against one?

drew_c14

I dunno... the 848 tuned and built right might do alright. But then again, maybe not...

autoteach

the 848 is supposed to be mid 130's for hp, about 350 in weight, and it will have, or should have, a torque advantage. it should be a good choice. The buell 1125 has a lot of displacement for the class, considering you could run a R6 up against the likes. It seems sort of foolish. Probably going to be a waste of time to watch, as well.

RK1

Jeez. For any mere mortal with $10k-$12k dollars in pocket or on credit, a "superbike" is a one thousand cc CBR/GSX-R/Ninja/R1. Given the rules posted at the link, I'd put my money on the Buell. It makes as much power as anything on that list and has a superior powerband to all the others. A Buell 1125 and a GSX-R600 in the same class? What a joke. A Suzuki 600 and 750 in the same class? What moron dreamed that up?

RK1

First place prize money- $50k

Second thru TWENTIETH- $5k

Huh?

Why bust your *** to finish 2nd or 3rd when you get no more than the slug who finished 20th?

How stupid is that?

drew_c14

LMAO! I was laughing about that exact same thing earlier. I would be happy with 19th or 20th place every single race.

captainchaos

the buell and the ducati don't even win against the current 600's...maybe a factory effort ducati with a top level rider...no offense larry pegram is a great rider...

HRCA#1

I read the new rules with absolute astonishment, I don't know what they smoke in Florida but I sure would like to try some! Maybe it would cause me to take my leathers out of storage build a SuperSport spec GSXR-750 and make 5K a weekend.

To the best of my knowledge the GSXR-750 is not currently legal in 600FX, so either this is a back door attempt to keep Suzuki in the game or it is a view of where DMG would like Daytona Superbike to go ie back to 750's (which wouldn't bother me).

I would also recommend Honda reintroduce the RC51, if the Aprilia Tuono is legal the RC should be as well. For those commenting on the benefits of a Buell..get over it..the Buell has been legal for a year or two and at one point there were 6 or 8 factory supported entries. Not only were they not competitive only one actually finished the race.

I'm also not sure where the purse is coming from? The OEM's not likely! The promoters? Lets see it will cost more for a single class than all four classes cost me last year..I don't think so!

Like I said I don't know what DMG is smokin but the next week or so should be fun when the OEM's, Teams and Riders start to chime in..stay tuned folks!

L8RGYZ

Weird, strange... I still think it's dumb to design an entire ROADRACING series around the limitations of an antiquated "stock car" track.

The grandstands at Daytona are ALWAYS EMPTY.... except for the occaisional drunk that stumbles over from Harley Bike Week. I always feel a twinge of embarrassment, since it is played up as the flagship event of the series. Give me a good roadracing course with fans sitting on grassy hillsides.

HRCA#1

L8RGYZ makes a great point and identifies one of the Fanatasies/falacies with DMG's "well this is how they do it in NasCar plan". Many if not most Nascar venues are roundy round left hand only speedway events. Stadiums like Charlotte, Talledega, Daytona, Pocono where you can sit in the stands and see most if not all of the track while drinking your beer and munching your barbeque.

Roadracing by it's heritage and nature is a road circuit where in any given lap a spectator may see 10% of a lap. I think watching the race on TV is acually a better viewing experience than being there. However if your a true motorhead it just ain't the same as being there.

Face it most of us aren't there for the Beer or the Barbeque and if we wanted to watch roundy round racing hell let's go to a 1/2 mile or mile race.

Motorcycle Roadracing is not Nascar! The fans are very different (not that you can't be a fan of both) although my guess is that most Nascar folks could care less about them there motorcicles!

killer5280

This is idiocy, pure and simple. (I hope I'm proved wrong.)

Syclone

FYI, all of Buell's "history" has been with Harley's ancient, air-cooled engines. With the new 1125R, I'd put my money on Buell.

killer5280

Just keep Steve Scheibe away from it.

L8RGYZ

A couple years ago they had 2 huge Jumbotrons @ VIR. You could watch it on TV AND be there too. Very cool!

L8RGYZ

I'd say BMW has a much better chance of success than Buell.

Moto Man

I wonder how the KTM Super Duke will do in that field?

HRCA#1

On the contrary it was prior to last season that the Buell 1125R was ruled to be legal for 600FX, Honda for one was furious about it and pulled out of the competition commitee. They needn't be too concerned as it turned out. It seems 6 or 8 "factory specials" showed up at Daytona and they were not only slow all but one blew up.

As for the BMW I don't think it stands a snowballs chance in hell of getting below 400 pounds legally and 140HP out of that engine is very unlikely. I don't know much about the KTM so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Syclone

The 1125R has already been raced? I didn't think it had been in production long enough to be run already.

RK1

I'm jut a casual observer of racing, I don't know much about the details, but if 1000cc Ducati twins could beat the Japanese 750 I-4s, I don't see how the Buell, if and when they sort it out, would fail to be competitive.

With the 3 lbs. per H.P. limit for the bikes, the larger displacement 140 horse bikes will have a peak power to weight advantage as soon as the rider sits on them, and a much greater advantage at lower rpm. If the big twins can be made reliable and to handle well I think they will do very well.

HRCA#1

My bad!! I went back and checked my resources. It was not the Buell 1125R that littered itself all over Daytona..it was the air/oil cooled $30K Buell XBRR. The new liquid cooled 1125R has not been raced.

Sorry about that but I'm not a Buell fan regardless..to me it's like putting perfume on a pig..smells great but it's still a pig. Maybe the KTM design will be better.

drew_c14

speaking of KTM...

Any rumors, confirmed or otherwise, about when and how much the RC8 will be in the states?

Moto Man

I heard from the sales folks at Scuderia West in SF that it would not be until next year, and the price would be "affordable".

autoteach

dumb, dumb, dumb. $5000, for 2nd thru 20th. That would be fantastic if there were 20 entries, and 1st place ran away with it and the rest of the group just sunday drove to the finish.

HRCA#1

I'll go you one better..lets have the 10 fastest guys agree to a different winner every race weekend. Ten races and we all make @$100K on top of whatever our contract is. And best of all it still leave $500k up for grabs for riders 11-20th.

altosuperhawk

GSX-R 750, Yoshimura, Mladin, Spies, Reg O'Rourke. That is if Mladin, Spies, and O'Rourke return next year....

Tweety

Heck.. I'm a crappy rider even amongst amateurs, and if they where doling out those sums here in Sweden I'd still be fairly sure of making a profit... Top 20 ain't that hard...

LineArrayNut

I'm reading somewhere around $20K most places. Not what I'd call affordable...

http://www.dirtbikebook.com/acatalog...c8concept.html

gssbmm

stock fork inner and outer tubes, so we're not even running FX spec on the suspention. just mildly tuned motors. superstock legal 600's are putting out close to 130hp I know club racer puting out that much on there bike for not stupid money. this will not be top teir racing. but I might still go out that and try to get my 5grand. I bet the the best racing will be for 1st-2nd and 20th-21st

WSBK has been looking to top US riders something tells me there will be a few avaliable.

HRCA#1

The Ohlins USA distributor must be on the verge of Hari Kari since a quick visual of the current FX field looks like an all Ohlins forks affair. I think it was Larry Pegram that was selling his used forks earlier this year for $20K and they apparently cost $30k new.

I can also just see Spencer and the announcer du jour commenting on that fantastic battle going on between 20th thru 24th or 25th for the last paying spot and only a lap down on the leader (boy that does sound like Nascar).

I think GSBMM is right get your passports ready and head to WSBK!

clarkwebb