LineArrayNut

I love it! Pedrosa throws it away in the rain leading by seven seconds!

VTRsurfer

Too bad the same didn't happen to Rossi, then Stoner would have the points lead.

VTRsurfer

By the way, what type of Doctor is Rossi?
I'm guessing Proctologist.

cliby

yeah, just like that no-talent rossi threw it away when he crashed late in the 06 season and handed the title to that whiner Hayden - these guys are just so lame. we should really be out there and show them all how its done.

Moto Man

Yeah the worst of all is that no talent Stoner. It's the bike that does all the riding for him. And that punk Rossi just uses the force to ride. No real talent there either since the midichloridians are doig all the work. And the only reason Pedrosa can win is because he weighs less that the fuel load in the bike. I mean really most of us could smoke these guys if we had similar bikes.

cliby

exactly! especially stoner. he has advanced electronics that allow him a great start and then he just coasts out in front by 5-10 second alone for the rest of the race

Moto Man

And what puss that Hopkins is too. I mean who takes time off for surgury when your going to race in your home country. And don't get me started on the Colin Edwards guy either I mean come on and win a race already man!

LineArrayNut

I wasn't commenting on his skill, I was commenting on his inability to keep his head and manage a race win. I wasn't commenting on any other rider...and I said nothing about my ability to ride. He had a chance to win an easy ride just by slowing down. It shows the same lack of maturity that caused this:

And now he can't ride today's race. Can I help it if I'm rooting for American riders?

VTRsurfer

I agree.

VTRsurfer

He almost spoiled Nicky's chance at the Championship in '06 with that pic you posted. Not a good move for a team rider.

cliby

but I think pedrosa has been one of the most consistent riders this and last season. they all make mistakes, especially when rookies. Remember the almost regular crashes from stoner his first GP season? And what about rossi taking out depuniet recently? Pedrosa is very good and particularly this season has been rock steady till this crash - despite a lot of races with intense pressure on him. I know he isn't popular here, but I don't understand the dislike of him. And to say any of these top riders are chokers is just absurd.

VTRsurfer

Hey, lighten up. We're just having fun.

By the way, I can't stand Barry Bonds or Kobe Bryant either.

killer5280

His talent and speed aren't in question, just his judgment. It's not the crashing that's the problem-you correctly state that they all do that-it's the time and places of the crashes. Two years ago he nearly cost Nicky Hayden the championship because of an incredibly stupid and unnecessary move. This year he may have cost himself the championship by throwing it away in Germany when he had an insurmountable lead. It's too early in his career to label him a choker, but a couple more mistakes like he has made and the label will be justified in my mind.
In spite of his crashitis his rookie season, Stoner has already won a title. In spite of the fact that Honda designed a bike around him and Dorna designed a series around him, Pedrosa hasn't won anything yet.

captainchaos

I don't know him personally, but I wouldn't be the first to say I've noticed Pedrosa lacking a little in the personality department. I know that has nothing to do with what counts-his ability to ride a bike, but it would be at least part of the reason he's not the most popular rider here. And that crash with Hayden will always be in folks minds. It was a mistake but a REALLY BIG one...anybody remember the rest of Bill Buckner's career or the ball that went through his legs? And like Killer said, they basically designed the damn bike around him and now the series too.

RCVTR

I like Pedrosa as a rider. I think he's one of the best and his results show it.

It looked to me like he got to where he thought he could do anything, his tires were working so well. but he finally got to a speed where the front end fully hydroplaned. the instant he touched the brake, he went down like he was on ice. I think it took him completely by surprise.

The lap times this year are all falling drastically from the 990 days. so much for the BS argument that safety was the primary concern in the displacement reduction. All it's done is eliminate all but the deepest of pockets. And made rider size and weight a bigger factor.

Honda has always liked small, high-revving engines. They used to try to compete in the GP class with a 500cc four-stroke that spun at something like 22,000 rpm (the NR500, which preceded the NS and NSR 500 two-strokes).

LineArrayNut

meaningless dot

VTRsurfer

Can you imagine the stress Nicky has been under the last 2 seasons, knowing he is bottom priority on the team.

And yeah, personality wise: Hayden 1, Pedrosa 0

DISCLAIMER: This post is not intended to be critical of these or any other MotoGP riders' ability on the track.

cliby

yeah, nicky sounds like a great guy, and american and its nice he's done well in GP. but get over it, at some point maybe he just isn't in the same league at least on the 800 bikes. This low man business get old. its a small bike. Small guys maybe have an advantage, though i believe rossi is one of the tallest riders out there. Being low man hasn't hurt Lorenzo much (if he could stop crashing long enough to show his potential) and he and Rossi are similarly different heights, sharing the same platform. If honda is not good to work with, Nicky should leave. Rossi's biography describes the same issues he had with honda, and that was as the best rider in the world at the time - so he took a risk and left. Paid off, paid off for Stoner to take a chance. We usually make our own fates.

Moto Man

I think the Duc will prove to be good mount for Nicky. It almost certain that he will move to Ducati next year.

VTRsurfer

+1....I can't see him staying with Honda, but I don't think anyone can beat Stoner when he's on. They would make a good team though.

LineArrayNut

+1

LineArrayNut

I like this thread alot! LOL! Another year and another chimp beat down...

cliby

well you are consistent! and what about the doctor?

for a USA race, covered by USA network, we sure didn't get to see much of nicky or colin on track - I thought the actual bike race coverage was pretty lame.

jbaxx

Always enjoy seeing the midget throw it down the road.

LineArrayNut

yeah, the coverage was abyssmal

VTRsurfer

Yeah but wasn't it much more interesting watching interviews with NASCAR guys than watching silly motorcycles go around a twisty track.

nath981

Yeah i was cursing fox for taking up race time with nascar ****, like we get so much time comparatively, huh. It's like we're second class citizens.

Tweety

Then just watch the Euorpean coverage instead...

LineArrayNut

Where tweety? I haven't found it...

nath981

yeah, I would but my neck ain't that long.