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Stumpy Aug 25, 2013 10:11 AM

Coerce Fork Brace
 
Hello all question about a Coerce fork brace install. How did you mount the fork protector after the fork brace is installed last time I tried to do it I tried to glue it but it kept coming lose and I think that is why I had my fork seal start to leak. I am replacing the seal now and was wondering what other people have done to make this work. here is a link to the kind of brace I have just for reference ok. Thanks so much

Coerce Fork Brace Stabilizer Honda VTR1000F Firestorm Superhawk VTR1000 | eBay

Tweety Aug 25, 2013 11:06 AM

You pretty much don't mount them with that brace... That's about it...

Upland111 Aug 25, 2013 11:12 AM

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There are probably several ways to accomplish what you want, but here is how I did it recently.
First read 8541Hawk install......
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...+brace+install
Next, You will see that after evenly clamping the brace in place, and leaving a gap between the fender and the brace, (I left approx. 3mm), you will only have about 6mm of which to slide the fork protectors back over.
Attachment 16086
Since the ID of the protectors is slightly tapered, I used foil tape, (Nashua Product) and made two complete wraps around the OD of the Stanchions. This tape has a good "Crush" so you will have a nice tight fit between the protector and the forks.
Attachment 16087
Attachment 16088
Since the gap between fender and brace, and the depth of the brace itself has raised the protectors, you will need to cut off about 11-12mm off the top of the protectors to prevent a interference fit when the forks are fully compressed. I just temporarily wrapped several layers of duct tape around the fork to protect it and carefully hacksawed the tops off the protectors, then filed and finally sanded the edges smooth.
Attachment 16089
That's pretty much it, finished product has been installed for about 2,000 miles with no problems thus far.
Attachment 16090

Edit: Or you can leave them off as Tweety has suggested above....Took me that long to post this before I saw it!

Stumpy Aug 26, 2013 07:50 PM

Thank you both for your input Upland is that the kind of tape you use for heating duct work do you lift the front wheel of the ground much ya I know its a hawk so that is yes but just asking thanks again

Upland111 Aug 26, 2013 08:17 PM

Yes, the main use for the Nashua product is HVAC. You could probably use something else, but since I am in the business it was convenient, and it worked just fine.
Do I occasionally wheelie? Why that would be illegal, so of course not! :)
What may I ask does that have to do with fork brace installation, I am curious? :confused:

nekkid Aug 27, 2013 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Stumpy (Post 361482)
Hello all question about a Coerce fork brace install. How did you mount the fork protector after the fork brace is installed last time I tried to do it I tried to glue it but it kept coming lose and I think that is why I had my fork seal start to leak. I am replacing the seal now and was wondering what other people have done to make this work. here is a link to the kind of brace I have just for reference ok. Thanks so much

Coerce Fork Brace Stabilizer Honda VTR1000F Firestorm Superhawk VTR1000 | eBay

Stumpy,

Check another thread also named "Coerce Fork Brace" dated 6/13/2012 for my fix for your problem.

nekkid

Stumpy Aug 28, 2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Upland111 (Post 361575)
What may I ask does that have to do with fork brace installation, I am curious? :confused:

ON landing the front wheel is when mine came loose LOL sometimes not the best landings.

Stumpy Aug 28, 2013 01:11 PM

This is the one right I was thinking of the cable tie also and the reason mine came loose before is I think that they hit when landing the front wheel on a blotched wheelie

F Y I for anyone thinking about installing a Coerce fork brace.

Yes, you can retain the stock fork guards after you install the brace and...
Yes, you can install the brace without pulling the fork tubes from the triples (per the manufacturer).

Gently but firmly push the guards up towards the triples. They are held in place by a lip on the guard that seats in a groove on the fork slider. Tape the guards to the bottom triple clamp to keep them out of the way.

Install the brace as close to the top of the fender as possible. You may want to pad the bottom of the brace with a layer of tape to avoid scratching the paint on the fender. Install it loosely at first and tighten each bolt a little at a time to avoid binding the fork. Bounce the front end of the bike to work the suspension a couple times during the bolt tightening process to make sure there is no binding.

Push the fork guards back onto the tops of the sliders as far as they will go. They won't be seated in the same spot as they were before the brace was installed, but the friction should be enough to hold them in place. I tightened a single cable tie near the bottom of each guard to make sure of it. 500 miles since the installation and it's doing fine.

Upland111 Aug 28, 2013 03:47 PM



ON landing the front wheel is when mine came loose LOL sometimes not the best
landings.
Gotcha. This is why after doing some measuring and sliding my forks all the way up with the fork caps off, I found that at full compression I needed to cut the top of the fork protector off. I mentioned in my earlier reply, this was to prevent a interference fit with the bottom triple.
I think this is the reason most people just remove them altogether.
How you accomplish seating them above the brace may not matter if they are too long, if you know what I mean.
Although nekkid may have found a way to do it that I did not think of.

KCCO Aug 28, 2013 06:50 PM

How much improvement do you all feel with the brace? I understand their purpose, to reduce flex and twist. However I do not really know what the twist and flex feels like. Can anyone explain the seat of the pants or the tangible bike response of it? Thanks all, btw congrats on the completed install.

Stumpy Aug 28, 2013 07:13 PM

Ok I have just a sec because the wife is in the shower doing her legs and offered to give me a wash so you know cant say no to that. Just finished my first fork and ready to put it on the bike tomorrow. I was thinking why not take the material off of the bottom of the fork protector that way you can keep the notch at the top of the mounting surface. if I still have to take some more material off take it from of the top to get the magic 11 to 12 mm measurement. What you think? have to go talk in awhile

20_rc51_00 Aug 21, 2014 09:52 PM

stumpy, I know it's been a year but did you end up shaving some off the bottom. this is exactly what I was thinking about as I was reading of the re-fit issue after the brace is installed. any advice?

tomb393 Jan 27, 2016 05:05 AM

fork protectors
 
I just bought a Coerce fork brace after learning Superbrace no longer makes them for VTR's.
I will attempt to employ both upland's and newkkid's methods of retaining the fork protectors. Thanks for posting guys!
I'll reply back with the results. If all else fails I'll go with NOJ neoprene fork guards.
http://www.nojgear.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=37526

AndyMX47 Jan 27, 2016 02:13 PM

Hey tomb393 - I'd like to hear if you can feel the results after installation too.

skokievtr Jan 27, 2016 02:33 PM

Fork Dust Scrappers
 
Upland,

I noted in your photos that your fork's dust scrapers are green and have an external spring retainer. Whose dust scrapers are they (i.e., SKF) and did you also install their seals, and where and when did you purchase them and for how much?

Thx



Originally Posted by Upland111 (Post 361492)
There are probably several ways to accomplish what you want, but here is how I did it recently.
First read 8541Hawk install......
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...+brace+install
Next, You will see that after evenly clamping the brace in place, and leaving a gap between the fender and the brace, (I left approx. 3mm), you will only have about 6mm of which to slide the fork protectors back over.
Attachment 16086
Since the ID of the protectors is slightly tapered, I used foil tape, (Nashua Product) and made two complete wraps around the OD of the Stanchions. This tape has a good "Crush" so you will have a nice tight fit between the protector and the forks.
Attachment 16087
Attachment 16088
Since the gap between fender and brace, and the depth of the brace itself has raised the protectors, you will need to cut off about 11-12mm off the top of the protectors to prevent a interference fit when the forks are fully compressed. I just temporarily wrapped several layers of duct tape around the fork to protect it and carefully hacksawed the tops off the protectors, then filed and finally sanded the edges smooth.
Attachment 16089
That's pretty much it, finished product has been installed for about 2,000 miles with no problems thus far.
Attachment 16090

Edit: Or you can leave them off as Tweety has suggested above....Took me that long to post this before I saw it!


tomb393 Jan 27, 2016 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by AndyMX47 (Post 393170)
Hey tomb393 - I'd like to hear if you can feel the results after installation too.

I am also upgrading to Racetech springs and a Penske rear shock. I expect to see noticeable improvement but not sure how much will be attributable to the fork brace. But I'll be sure to post my findings as well as how my attempt to salvage the fork protectors goes.

skokievtr Jan 27, 2016 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by tomb393 (Post 393172)
I am also upgrading to Racetech springs and a Penske rear shock. I expect to see noticeable improvement but not sure how much will be attributable to the fork brace. But I'll be sure to post my findings as well as how my attempt to salvage the fork protectors goes.

Gee, are you doing all that work yourself? It sounds involved, very time consuming, tricky and fraught with pitfalls and potential errors that could prove literally fatal.

tomb393 Jan 27, 2016 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by skokievtr (Post 393174)
Gee, are you doing all that work yourself? It sounds involved, very time consuming, tricky and fraught with pitfalls and potential errors that could prove literally fatal.

No some clown who refers to his shop as the Bretcave will be doing most of it. I still think he's overpaid.

skokievtr Jan 27, 2016 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by tomb393 (Post 393176)
No some clown who refers to his shop as the Bretcave will be doing most of it. I still think he's overpaid.

And what payment may that be?

tomb393 Jan 27, 2016 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by skokievtr (Post 393177)
And what payment may that be?

countless opportunities to impart your vast knowledge

skokievtr Jan 27, 2016 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by tomb393 (Post 393179)
countless opportunities to impart your vast knowledge

I don't know who you think I am but you have the wrong vampire...

Upland111 Jan 27, 2016 08:51 PM

Skokievtr,


Yes, They are SKF brand dust wipers and fork seals. I believe I got them from Greg Nemish when he supplied me with all the upgraded internals for my forks. Its been several years so don't quote me. They were slightly more than the stock seals and wipers and SKF is a good brand so I figured why not. About 8,000 Miles on them no problems thus far.

kenmoore Jan 28, 2016 01:55 AM

No protectors with my brace!

Been like that for a couple of years and no probs.

I fitted the brace after doing the swingarm mod and yes it makes a difference.

You can really feel it under hard braking, especially if you have upgraded calipers and braided lines. Stops the forks from feeling like they are getting all tied up and schitzy!

Hard to describe but just settles everything down at the front. Ads some more corner speed when pressing hard.

A worthwhile mod if you like to explore the upper reaches of the VTRs dynamics.

Also worth remembering that these bikes are designed to flex, but the current crop of tyres do not allow for that so the brace helps there as well.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

I strongly suggest that you check all fasteners for the brace regularly as they can come loose over time.


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