HONDA SUPER HAWK 98-02 8500K XENON HEADLIGHTS
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Xenon/Argon/Blue-tint bull$hit isn't worth it.
Simple Answer: Wagner BP1210 100/80 H4. ~$11 at Napa. Bright as hell, cheaper than the fancy overpriced crap, 12,000+ miles on the same bulb, no overheating problems. Check Here
Simple Answer: Wagner BP1210 100/80 H4. ~$11 at Napa. Bright as hell, cheaper than the fancy overpriced crap, 12,000+ miles on the same bulb, no overheating problems. Check Here
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I've had them for about a year and a half, no issues I think I paid $9 for two with lifetime warranty. Who's life I'm not sure, but I figured that way if I do have to send one in I'll have a spare so no down time.
I like the blue light it's not much brighter but the blue cuts through better. IMO
I've had them for about a year and a half, no issues I think I paid $9 for two with lifetime warranty. Who's life I'm not sure, but I figured that way if I do have to send one in I'll have a spare so no down time.
I like the blue light it's not much brighter but the blue cuts through better. IMO
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Xenon/Argon/Blue-tint bull$hit isn't worth it.
Simple Answer: Wagner BP1210 100/80 H4. ~$11 at Napa. Bright as hell, cheaper than the fancy overpriced crap, 12,000+ miles on the same bulb, no overheating problems. Check Here
Simple Answer: Wagner BP1210 100/80 H4. ~$11 at Napa. Bright as hell, cheaper than the fancy overpriced crap, 12,000+ miles on the same bulb, no overheating problems. Check Here
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Re: HONDA SUPER HAWK 98-02 8500K XENON HEADLIGHTS
I have the expensive PIAA purplish bulb and have had no problems. It is much brighter than stock. If the slightly different color gets me noticed, then its doing its job.
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The ones at NAPA are simply higher wattage lights. You can't put out more light (reliably) with the same wattage. Some of the aftermarket bulbs use a ~55 watt filament in a 60 watt draw high beam, which does burn brighter, but at the expense of bulb life and reliability. It's kinda like overclocking your computer. However, if you use a bulb with a higher wattage draw, the bulb is designed for it and doesn't suffer the bulb life issues. Weak link at that point becomes the bike's stock wiring harness, and like I said earlier, I haven't had any overheating problems in 12k+ miles. I saw a 100/130 H4 bulb somewhere, but at more than twice the stock high beam draw, I'm not sure I'd trust the stock wiring. Might work just fine, but 80/100 is about my upper limit. Just my humble opinion, YMMV.
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When choosing bulbs keep asking yourself, "why would this work better?"
You can't just create energy, and light is energy. A lot of manufactures claim that thier 55W is as bright as a 100W. That is physically impossible. What they are compairing is the color heat signiture. They can tint the bulb to produce a white light similar to what is seen with a 100W bulb. It is not actually putting out more light.
Also, the fad in blue lighting is counter productive in lighting terms. The light apears blue beacuse the blue tint is filtering out the blue light wave. Current non HID light bulbs put a lot of light out in this blue spectrum. Why would you filter that light out? In short a 55W blue bulb, is not putting 55W to the road as a clear bulb would be. PIAA has really been marketing thier blue tinted bulbs like this. It pisses me off and has completely turned me off from PIAA.
If you are buying a new bulb for looks only, then get what you like. I just don't want poeple to be fooled by a manufacturerers propaganda. If you want brighter more usefull illumination of the road a clear bulb with higher wattage is the only answer.
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You can't just create energy, and light is energy. A lot of manufactures claim that thier 55W is as bright as a 100W. That is physically impossible. What they are compairing is the color heat signiture. They can tint the bulb to produce a white light similar to what is seen with a 100W bulb. It is not actually putting out more light.
Also, the fad in blue lighting is counter productive in lighting terms. The light apears blue beacuse the blue tint is filtering out the blue light wave. Current non HID light bulbs put a lot of light out in this blue spectrum. Why would you filter that light out? In short a 55W blue bulb, is not putting 55W to the road as a clear bulb would be. PIAA has really been marketing thier blue tinted bulbs like this. It pisses me off and has completely turned me off from PIAA.
If you are buying a new bulb for looks only, then get what you like. I just don't want poeple to be fooled by a manufacturerers propaganda. If you want brighter more usefull illumination of the road a clear bulb with higher wattage is the only answer.
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When choosing bulbs keep asking yourself, "why would this work better?"
You can't just create energy, and light is energy. A lot of manufactures claim that thier 55W is as bright as a 100W. That is physically impossible. What they are compairing is the color heat signiture. They can tint the bulb to produce a white light similar to what is seen with a 100W bulb. It is not actually putting out more light.
Also, the fad in blue lighting is counter productive in lighting terms. The light apears blue beacuse the blue tint is filtering out the blue light wave. Current non HID light bulbs put a lot of light out in this blue spectrum. Why would you filter that light out? In short a 55W blue bulb, is not putting 55W to the road as a clear bulb would be. PIAA has really been marketing thier blue tinted bulbs like this. It pisses me off and has completely turned me off from PIAA.
If you are buying a new bulb for looks only, then get what you like. I just don't want poeple to be fooled by a manufacturerers propaganda. If you want brighter more usefull illumination of the road a clear bulb with higher wattage is the only answer.
Str8away Hater
You can't just create energy, and light is energy. A lot of manufactures claim that thier 55W is as bright as a 100W. That is physically impossible. What they are compairing is the color heat signiture. They can tint the bulb to produce a white light similar to what is seen with a 100W bulb. It is not actually putting out more light.
Also, the fad in blue lighting is counter productive in lighting terms. The light apears blue beacuse the blue tint is filtering out the blue light wave. Current non HID light bulbs put a lot of light out in this blue spectrum. Why would you filter that light out? In short a 55W blue bulb, is not putting 55W to the road as a clear bulb would be. PIAA has really been marketing thier blue tinted bulbs like this. It pisses me off and has completely turned me off from PIAA.
If you are buying a new bulb for looks only, then get what you like. I just don't want poeple to be fooled by a manufacturerers propaganda. If you want brighter more usefull illumination of the road a clear bulb with higher wattage is the only answer.
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Re: HONDA SUPER HAWK 98-02 8500K XENON HEADLIGHTS
I learn't something from talking to Hella in regards to this. Wattage is a unit of power usage, it is not a measurement of light. Light is measured in units such as candlepower and lux. So a 55w globe uses 55 watts of power is does not produce 55w watts of light. The difference between a 100 watt globe and a 130 watt globe is 6% increase in light output, the rest of the power goes as heat.
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I concour that silverstars are great legal improvements but there is a better solution IMO: 55w/80w. Nice and legal on the low beam and only ultra power when you need it.
I've never understood running 80/100 or 100/130's. Really pushing the limits of the electrical system all the time plus you're blinding the folks ahead of you in stop/go traffic day or night!
I've never understood running 80/100 or 100/130's. Really pushing the limits of the electrical system all the time plus you're blinding the folks ahead of you in stop/go traffic day or night!
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