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Bearshawk 09-28-2011 06:38 AM

Track day pricing
 
Hey guys what do you pay for a normal track day?
im thinking about becoming a member of zars here in MN and the platinum rider package, unlimited track days is 700 something dollars. seems pretty reasonable to me, i have been riding the hawk well for 3 years now and i have done the BRC just for fun but now i REALLY want to do track days...despite my mother and girlfriends woes (how do you married/tied down guys handle this???)

either way check out ZARS Home pretty sweet and i know a good few people who have done this and loved it

Old Yeller 09-28-2011 07:46 AM

that's not a bad price, but depends on how much time you can make to participate. There's quite a bit of "hidden" cost to consider.

Track day fee: $140-$200
Fuel: $20 for the bike, $75 for my truck
motel: $50
food/water: $100

There is a lot to consider beyond just the fee.

Bearshawk 09-28-2011 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Old Yeller (Post 315029)
that's not a bad price, but depends on how much time you can make to participate. There's quite a bit of "hidden" cost to consider.

Track day fee: $140-$200
Fuel: $20 for the bike, $75 for my truck
motel: $50
food/water: $100

There is a lot to consider beyond just the fee.


well the good thing about the track they use is its about 20 minutes away from my house so motel and food would be less... but your right on the hidden costs, im sure food/water/ fuel really adds up. i might just start with 4 track days next year and see how that fits into my schedule

speedkelly@aol.com 09-28-2011 09:54 AM

$700 for umlimited trackdays at a track that is only 20 minutes away from your home? For me that would be a no brainer, and my wallet would be $700 dollars lighter.

Safety, fears, concerns for family. My wife would rather I ride/race at a track than comute to work by motorcycle. The track if far far safer than any road. For a start everyone is going in the same directions most of the time! No trucks, buses, people texting, yelling at their kids, spilling coffee in their laps, No COPS!, so no speeding tickets (save money right there) and you get to have fun, make friendships that will last for years. Have fun ride safe. Start saving money for new tires now.

mboe794 09-28-2011 10:16 AM

I've been running with ZARS for a couple years now. They are an excelent bunch of people. Very helpful with anything you may need.I have never taken advantage of any of Jessica's packages. I just take things one day at a time. The 170 bucks or so for the day at BIR or MAM is well worth it IMO. Rumor has it that they will be at Road America next year as well. Possibly a joint effort with another group.

I would stay away from DCTC with ZARS though. Too big of an orginization. Attracts too many people for that little track. Check out ridingcourse.com if you're looking to ride there. You have to do their class, but after that it's almost wide open track. And if you're new to tracks their class is well to worth it. There are other that ride out the too. Just drawing a blank right now.

jay956 09-28-2011 10:30 AM

ive seen track days range anywhere from $80-$300. really is a lot of variables, but in general it seems to be the highest here on the east coast and get lower as you go west.

Tormoz 09-28-2011 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by mboe794 (Post 315041)
I've been running with ZARS for a couple years now. They are an excelent bunch of people. Very helpful with anything you may need.I have never taken advantage of any of Jessica's packages. I just take things one day at a time. The 170 bucks or so for the day at BIR or MAM is well worth it IMO. Rumor has it that they will be at Road America next year as well. Possibly a joint effort with another group.

I would stay away from DCTC with ZARS though. Too big of an orginization. Attracts too many people for that little track. Check out ridingcourse.com if you're looking to ride there. You have to do their class, but after that it's almost wide open track. And if you're new to tracks their class is well to worth it. There are other that ride out the too. Just drawing a blank right now.

I've heard about the riding course at Dakota tech. I've been considering it as a refresher of sorts. Used to road race in So Cal and then a year or two at Brainerd International, but that was back in the '80s, then road only sporadically for many years. What are your impressions of their program?

Old Yeller 09-28-2011 12:52 PM

Don't forget tire and maintenance costs. Those add up too!

For 20 minutes away, it seems like a really good option though.

Something else to think about. One of the things I've enjoyed is getting to go to other tracks farther away.

superhawk22 09-28-2011 01:05 PM

I would be ALL OVER that! As old yeller said though expect to spend lots on tires I spent over $2500 in 1 season a few years back! My wife is a trauma nurse and she would much rather me being on the track than the streets.

mboe794 09-28-2011 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Tormoz (Post 315050)
I've heard about the riding course at Dakota tech. I've been considering it as a refresher of sorts. Used to road race in So Cal and then a year or two at Brainerd International, but that was back in the '80s, then road only sporadically for many years. What are your impressions of their program?

I did it as my first track experiance. Yeah it's short and relatively low speed, but it's a track. A very technical one. The class session that ridingcourse.com offered was, for me, quite helpfull. Even though I feel that I was a very good "spirited" street rider, I still learned some things. The biggest thing for me was the help with body position. Because I grew up racing MX, many habits carried over into sportbikes. Many of which needed adjusting for the obviously different bike characteristics. But it was a tad on the boring side for some topics ad well. Like turn in and looking through the corner.

But I guess for a guy with previous track experiance, especially at a racing level, would find the classroom a biy mundane.

Eveyone has to do this their first time out there. I still go back from time to time and ride their advanced group. That track is quite the workout!

smokinjoe73 09-28-2011 05:30 PM

What does the 7 bills include? How many possible trackdays in a season? I race & travel 6 hrs to the track so if I had one 20 min I would probably never leave. Not familiar with the track. Is it big/small? I race lightweight twins and save enough on tires in a season to almost buy a lightweight trackbike over the heavy bike tire consumption. Oh and you can save on hotels by just sleeping at the track. (tent or van)

nath981 09-28-2011 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bearshawk (Post 315024)
but now i REALLY want to do track days...despite my mother and girlfriends woes (how do you married/tied down guys handle this???)

it's a no-brainer bear..........the track is a thousand times safer than the street and, will make you a better street rider to boot. It's a win-win.

Old Yeller 09-29-2011 07:20 AM

On a recent trip I took, I happened to run into another rider who is also a MSF teacher, and also had experience on tracks. He was asking me a variety of questions about my experiences and how they have translated to the street. There are some rather obvious things about how much I could trust tires beyond what I'd previously experienced, and of course being in a "safe" environment to push myself. One thing stood out that he really shook his head about. I have found my street riding to be far less aggressive since starting to ride on the track. I've noticed I don't have a need to push myself as hard to "prove" I could do things. I don't even feel the need to prove myself to others. The track riding has given me an opportunity to do those things there.

Tormoz 09-29-2011 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by mboe794 (Post 315058)
I did it as my first track experiance. Yeah it's short and relatively low speed, but it's a track. A very technical one. The class session that ridingcourse.com offered was, for me, quite helpfull. Even though I feel that I was a very good "spirited" street rider, I still learned some things. The biggest thing for me was the help with body position. Because I grew up racing MX, many habits carried over into sportbikes. Many of which needed adjusting for the obviously different bike characteristics. But it was a tad on the boring side for some topics ad well. Like turn in and looking through the corner.

But I guess for a guy with previous track experiance, especially at a racing level, would find the classroom a biy mundane.

Eveyone has to do this their first time out there. I still go back from time to time and ride their advanced group. That track is quite the workout!

Thanks for the info. Yeah, I might find some of the basic stuff mundane, but I think that tight track would be a good challenge and skill sharpener. Sounds like my Yamaha WR250R would be just the ticket if I could fit it with some super-moto wheels!

Tormoz 09-29-2011 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Old Yeller (Post 315114)
On a recent trip I took, I happened to run into another rider who is also a MSF teacher, and also had experience on tracks. He was asking me a variety of questions about my experiences and how they have translated to the street. There are some rather obvious things about how much I could trust tires beyond what I'd previously experienced, and of course being in a "safe" environment to push myself. One thing stood out that he really shook his head about. I have found my street riding to be far less aggressive since starting to ride on the track. I've noticed I don't have a need to push myself as hard to "prove" I could do things. I don't even feel the need to prove myself to others. The track riding has given me an opportunity to do those things there.

Old Yeller, I agree with you and others that the track is the safest place to go fast, and once you've tried it, you realize how far true track speeds are from what you can do on the road -- even what a crazy rider might do on the road.

I haven't road raced for many years, but one of the biggest things I found that carried over to the street was the knowledge of your limits -- especially banking and braking -- in situations requiring quick reactions. If you've never experienced the full (and still safe) limits of your bike, tires, etc., and an emergency situation requires you to, say, turn sharply out of the way, you might either 1) not turn enough because you've never experienced anything close to that lean angle, or 2) slam the bike over beyond what its capable of.

If you've been on the track, pushing your bike and yourself to their limits, and have done that repeatedly, you have a much better memory -- and what I'd call "motor-skill" memory -- of how far you safely can go to get out of a dangerous situation.

Personally, I could use some track time and will look into it next season: it's been long enough since I was on a track that I have no illusions about still having that level of skill anymore.


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