Tormoz

Glad you're basically ok! But all your trashed gear is a pretty strong testimony to wearing the right stuff!

smokinjoe73

Good news, as in any crash you can walk away from is good news. Slightly funny about both middle fingers, maybe they subconciously extended as you were sliding?

Is your horn good & loud? You gotta LIVE on that thing with locating blips. I attribute all my avoidance with being a nuisance. But at least they know I am there.

The mario nava sounds like it hurts your feelings the most.

Agree with jshram, ptl you are ok & can ride again.

dehning

I'll throw in my experience on Friday for contrast.

Put a brand new rear tire on my SH on Thursday night as the final thing that I needed to fix before I sell and buy an RC51. (Had nice metallic blue fairings, anodized blue levers, yoshi pipes) I have 3 other bikes which I alternate between each day. Friday I started her up, quietly rolled down my driveway into my dry cul-de-sac and went to shift to second as I was leaving the cul-se-sac to keep her quiet in my sleepy neighborhood. I have commuted almost every day for the last 4 years from the same place. With no warning whatsoever the back end came unstuck and slipped out, dropping the bike on my right leg. The bike slid a few yards further and stopped, oil pouring out onto the road.

To make a long story short, my armor did what it was supposed to, but I broke both tibia and fibula in my lower right leg (Hurts like a SOB), ground a 1/2 hole in the clutch cover, tore up my new fairings pretty good and gouged up my tank pretty good.

It sounds like you may have come off better than I did.

nath981

glad you and the SH are ok. Were you in the right lane and he pulled over on you? That's what happened to me today, but i managed to keep it up. Could have been the viagra though........nah, I'm a stud. haha

well I was both lucky and unlucky today. Got ran off the road when a cager moved over on me quickly and without signal. Got it squared away, passed him and showed him that he was #1 in my book.

Then I got home and got a call from a State Trooper. He says I passed a cager on a curve 2 days ago and he got my license plate number. I admitted I was guilty and of course got a ticket. Supposedly no points because I told the truth without him having to prove it was me. I told him the guy sped up on me and forced me into the turn for the pass, but he was unaffected by this.

The funny thing about it is that this is the second time this summer that a cager sped up on me in that very same place forcing me to make the pass on the yellow line in mid-turn, and both times it was wet which made my butt pucker a bit. I guess I'm gonna have to stop passing people at this place, esp since my license plate is so easy to read.

In the younger days, I had a small black piece of leather strapped on the back of my seat, When I got into a situation like the above, or being chased, i would release the strap and flip the cover back over my tail light and license plate and keep on gettin it. We we always running from the cops, but today no so easy to escape with the faster cars and technology.

I need to invent a modern day license plate disguiser.

smokinjoe73

So nath you got a ticket on someones sayso/ hearsay? The cop wasnt even there? That seems illegal. Whats next the cop will just ask you what you have done this week and give tickets?

Oh and btw, if you even THINK someone might encroach, give a triple beep to let them know you are there. Wont always work but it will save you.

Sorry zman, slight threadjack. Still sorry about the get off.

nath981

that's right,cop wasn't there. but i didn't want to lie about it........dumbass huh! On the other hand, if the ******* got my picture, I would have got the book thrown at me more for lying.

This stupidity will force me to hopefully develop a more protective strategy, because if have to ride curvy roads behind slo-mos, I may as well sell the bike.

in terms of the run-off-the-road incident, this guy pulled over suddenly as i was passing on the right and, you're right, i should have used my horn. Maybe we could call it, dumb and dumber huh.

captainchaos

Sorry to hear that Martin, but I'm glad to hear you made out pretty well and your gear did its job. I've been down a couple times-once was taken away and another walked away. I'll take the latter. As much as it sucks, bikes can always be fixed or replaced as long as you make out ok.

CrankenFine

That's a smart play. I was in a near miss a week ago and should have used that strategy. I hit my brakes pretty hard to avoid being forced into a curb.

RWhisen

Too late
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nuhawk

Sometimes I wonder about people that keep looking for bigger mountains to climb. You have had your share of challenges.

Glad you're ok and the bike can be fixed. Keep climbing the hill.

nath981

yeah, I've been looking at these options for sure. I'm going to pick one and try it for a while before I put them on both bikes.

I'm also looking for offensive options to address the ******** who intentionally pull over on ya, speed up to keep you from passing before curves, or otherwise threaten your existence. Do you know of any weapons, maybe a lightweight rocket launcher, that is reasonably priced and can be mounted on the back of my motorcycle?haha

I didn't encounter this type of sicko driver when I rode the canyons and hwy 1 up and down the coast in CA; I don't see this when I view You Tube vids of motorcycle passes throughout europe and other places in the world, so I guess it's a relatively parochial phenomenon common to Northeastern *********.

I am puzzled by these pee-brained ego maniacs who can't stand to have someone pass them(maybe the result of too much NASCAR exposure?) to the degree where they are willing to put someone's life on the line just to stay ahead.

Maybe I should just mount cameras to capture these maneuvers so that when I get a citation for an illegal pass, they can be arrested for attempted homicide.

apologize for the threadjack.

smokinjoe73

Yes it is bewildering. Do these people get mad when they see a bird fly overhead? A creature with an entirely different set of parameters? I think its the same thing here.

Every so often when someone beeps or yells I slow down and motion like "hey come with me, lets go". Then I continue into the space between cars that they cant occupy.

I find that its usually impotent men or (regular) women who feel like its "not fair". But they are not taking the risk so they dont get the freedom payoff.

Regardless of opinion loud pipes really help here. Its a base visceral thing that people will back off from.

In the end, you cant be bothered. You need your whole dime of attention to stay focused and safe. No way do birds dwell on their close calls, they just move on & stay sharp. This is all part of the game you chose when you got on a bike.....

If it was easy everyone would do it.

Oh yeah and Europeans fully respect 2 wheelers. I do love that about them.

VTRsurfer

nath, They're here as well. I've had experiences going back 4 decades, where drivers sped up when I tried to pass, moved over to try and hit me when I'm lane splitting, etc. Once when I got by the bastard before a corner (he'd floored it into passing gear), I couldn't negotiate the left hander safely and had to go off wide on the dirt shoulder and around a telephone pole. Lucky for me I kept it upright and got back on the asphalt in front of the asswipe. Maybe you were just sampling too much wacky tabacky back then to notice.

Martin, I hope your abrasions are healing up, and you're getting things sorted out on your bike. You still haven't told us what happened.

nath981

dig it! you hit the nail right on the head.

from my experiences relative to truckin in CA, I've noticed that generally people are more open and forward thinking than those who have not emigrated there from the east. Not smarter or better, just more tolerant if you will.

My first couple years truckin were spent traveling from PA to Jersey, NY, CT, MA, and I ran into a lot-lot-lot of ignorant bastards. It wasn't till I started running south, west, and eventually to all states that I realized that people were more laid back and less angry than there fellow countrymen in the Northeast. Hell, i think those miserable jerks in CT and MA hate everybody and everything including their mothers their dogs and themselves. This is the same here in PA, but to a lesser degree and naturally there are exceptions, just like there are nice convicts.

too much wacky tabacky is very likely indeed.haha

Reason

What he said.

zmaniv

Ok everyone an update on everything.
Road rash on both knees a large hematoma on my right thigh bruised ribs bruised right thumb a few scrapes on both hands (very minor)
As for my gear I was wearing an icon Motörhead jacket, Held gloves, sidi vertigo Corsa boots, Shoei X-11 helmetand jeans. The grooved concrete they use for roads out here really does a number on gear when you crash at speed. Ate thru my gauntlet on the gloves that stingray stuff is great didn't go thru that but the gloves are pretty trashed. Jacket almost worn completely thru in the front in a couple spots. Boot mounting for the ankle protection tore the screws out, and just ever so slightly tapped my helmet.
I was going to work 15 north approaching the 78 interchange and there was a section of heavy traffic coming up so I moved to the right lane #5 lanes 4&3 were all backed up coming down off freeway speeds when all of a sudden an ******* in a small white Mazda/Toyota turned his wheels full to the right and entered my lane. Him travelling 2 mph me going 60+ taped the front brakes to scrub some speed and the front tire just went. Not sure if he clipped me or not it was instantaneous.
Pretty sure I high sided because I shouldn't be so bruised up from a low side.
Getting better slowly but surely

jaypo

Glad nothing more major and the gear took the punishment. Take it easy man and get better soon.

nath981

glad you're alive and not too banged up.

for the sake of prevention and learning, and of course to agitate the wounded, I got a few questions and comments.

MOTGATT(Most of the gear all the time). Forgot your drawers boy, but I know that that's the price of lookin cool, and it's handy if you gotta **** bad too. haha.

Stopped traffic and you're going 60mph? I know these back-ups can be sudden, but that's some scary ****.

Tapped the front brake and lost the front. What tire, pressure, OEM brakes? we're you in the middle of the lane where there may have been debris/deposits? Evidently, the slack between zero and full compression was too much for the tire to maintain traction.

I don't know. Is there anything we can learn from your experience?

Reason

That's my takeaway. zmaniv, not trying to blame the victim here - the guy clearly violated your right of way, and something very similar happened to my wife in our car the other day (no crash, just some cursing). It's way too common that morons have no conception of "other cars."

However, physics and idiots being what they are, if I find myself in a similar situation, I'd like to think I'll remember your post and slow down asap.

zmaniv

Nath yea I know the risk of just a pair of jeans that's why im not complaining about my rash

The freeway has a slight rise then drops down cant see the backup till your coming up to it. That's why I was going 60 instead of 70

Yep pretty sure middle of the lane. Not sure if there was debris or not.

Brakes are gsxr 6 pot with stock MC tire pressure was good recently didn't check that day.