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Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 06:47 AM

superhawk- 1998 or 2000
 
Alright,

So i have been looking all over for a superhawk, and have come down to a few option- all of which have similar price, mileage, and what not. One is a 1998 and 0ne is a 2000- the thing that draws me towards the '98 i have been looking at is, well- it is red, the 2000- yellow- i can get past the color- I think the 2000 would be better even though not many changes took place until 01. So.... am i right to lean more towards the 2000 in yellow?

let me know.

thanks

craig

1971allchaos Dec 20, 2010 06:56 AM

Craig,
You and i have spoken- and reading thru the forum. The question of bigger cams(more Proformance) have came into play.
Yet -really comes down to " HOW FAST YA WANTA GO?"
cause we "ALL" know red is faster......
allchaos/ has struck........

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 07:01 AM

right- I agree red is faster- but... yellow isn't anything to scoff at.. is it?

there must have been some things added on in two years.

Stevebis1 Dec 20, 2010 07:02 AM

If you have to "get past the color" then I suggest the '98. There is little difference between a '00 and a '98, though some have indicated the cam grind is more agressive on the '98 & '99 SHawks.
"blue book" value of a '00 is likely higher than a '98 but at this point both years have likely devalued as much as they are going to, so condition and mileage is the real factor.

Tweety Dec 20, 2010 07:06 AM

If the bike is more than at the most five years old, ie in this case both bikes... Then it comes down to condition, since at that point any one bike isn't any more "new" than the other... A '00 bike is at this point 10 years old, ie all the "age related" problems will be there just as much on the '98... Ie ageing rubber parts and such...

Look at condition and maintainance, compare is you get some aftermarket parts that you consider worth any money, and then if all that comes out even, go with your heart... Ie if you prefer one color over the other, get that bike... (That even goes if you prefer yellow... *shudder*)

No matter what of these two bikes you buy, I'd start with doing the big service on it, including replaceing any and all fluids and at least checking if the airfilter needs replacing... One of the other guys on here just discovered that his new to him bike didn't have antifreeze, not a nice surprise...

I'd also include swapping the fork fluid since I'm willing to bet a substantial sum of money that nobody have swapped that in the last 10 years, and it will at this point smell like rotten eggs, and have the damping properties of the same...

CCT's and R/R will also go on the list of things to-do... Plus cleaning and greasing any and all bearings... Cleaning and sealing any and all electrical contacts and groundpoints... Checking all hoses for dry cracks... Loadtesting the battery and measuring the charging system...

That's my list of things to do, just for starters... But I'm probably a bit odd... I usually end up with any vehicle I buy stripped down in it's constitutional parts within a week...;)

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 07:07 AM

I say get past the color in jest- slightly- I like the red- it looks sharper- but they yellow has grown on me- the guy who bought my Hawk gt- rode his 2000 vfr (yellow) over- and it kinda changed my perspective on the color- and besides- it is just a color right? The vtwin engine is really why i like the bike-

oh- I almost considered getting a vfr after i rode it, but it seemed less fun than the superhawk- there really is something to be said for the vtwin.

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 07:26 AM

Oh- and I am convinced the Superhawk in Black- looks terrible it might as well be a katana

7moore7 Dec 20, 2010 07:31 AM

+1 on checking for maintenance. Go look at both of them and you can usually tell which owner has taken better care of the bike. Even better, ask them what they've done to it in the last couple of years. The bike that I bought with a pristine chain and owner's manual included turned out to be very well maintained. I also learned the hard way and bought one that was rattle can painted and had cracks in the tail... not so nice underneath...

+1 on old technology. These things are carbeurated sport bikes. You're not missing out on anything significant from a '98 to an '00 that you'll notice. Get a new 600rr if you want new techology (but you've already mentioned the v-twin character)

Good luck on your buy!

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 07:42 AM

I just sold my 89 hawk gt- the superhawk is new technology.

t-dogg Dec 20, 2010 08:11 AM

Ha the SH is just as primitive. You will be surprised, mine can be very stubborn at times. I would go for the 98 though, the yellow ones aren't to horrible lol

Old Yeller Dec 20, 2010 09:11 AM

all else being equal in condition, I'd go newer.

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 10:05 AM

I think i need to see some more pics of yellow vs red bikes-

this could also serve as motivation to pull the trigger on a bike sooner rather than later-

8541Hawk Dec 20, 2010 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288948)
Oh- and I am convinced the Superhawk in Black- looks terrible it might as well be a katana

And you can only wish that you had my black SH....... ;)

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 10:31 AM

you know- who am I to call someone out on a bad color choice- when i don't even have anything in my garage anymore.

8541Hawk Dec 20, 2010 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288957)
you know- who am I to call someone out on a bad color choice- when i don't even have anything in my garage anymore.

On real thin ice my friend..... but you'll find out the first time you ask for help......

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 11:06 AM

Crap- good call- I know i am gonna have a ton of Q's also.
For the record, Black Superhawks are cool if you are into that kinda stuff-

Tweety Dec 20, 2010 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by 8541Hawk (Post 288960)
On real thin ice my friend..... but you'll find out the first time you ask for help......

Well... He might have angered you, but he gets a goldstar from me for the color choice so, at least he'll get one free answer before I start poking him with a big stick... ;)

Tweety Dec 20, 2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288961)
Crap- good call- I know i am gonna have a ton of Q's also.
For the record, Black Superhawks are cool if you are into that kinda stuff-


Don't worry... He's ex-marine, not active... So he'll forgive you despite the sig-line... ;)


That is, after he's shot you once or twice in non-essential areas... :rotf:

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 11:18 AM

Being new to this forum- i guess i have to learn that SH colors mean everything to their owners.

Even if it is a less desirable color. :P

Tweety Dec 20, 2010 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288965)
Being new to this forum- i guess i have to learn that SH colors mean everything to their owners.

Nah... It's just that since it's off season for a lot of us, being snowbound we tend to need topics to occupy ourselves... Arguing about color, oil, tires and other topics where facts are absolutely absolute is a good way to fight of the PBS (Parked Bike Syndrome) effects... ;)

Also... This forum tends to operate on the principle of duck and retailate on the same level... ;) Rough but friendly humour is the norm...

Also... Searching before asking questions that likely have been asked before is adviced... Doing it in the other order is at your own peril... ;)

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 11:24 AM

In all actuality 8541Hawk is right, i am def gonna have some questions, once i pull the trigger on one of these things- so as long as we can put our differences in color aside, i would appreciate input from anyone and everyone regardless of SH color.

Tweety Dec 20, 2010 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288967)
In all actuality 8541Hawk is right, i am def gonna have some questions, once i pull the trigger on one of these things- so as long as we can put our differences in color aside, i would appreciate input from anyone and everyone regardless of SH color.

See post above... Wear flame retardant clothes and fire away and you'll be fine... ;)

Old Yeller Dec 20, 2010 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288961)
Crap- good call- I know i am gonna have a ton of Q's also.
For the record, Black Superhawks are cool if you are into that kinda stuff-

For God's sake, whatever you do, don't listen to any European input. those guys all ride the slower Firestorms. :evillaugh:

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 01:17 PM

Just got a call from the owner of the '98- guess i will be riding a Red superhawk-

just waiting for one more detail from the guy- and everything should be good- maybe

ttocsmai Dec 20, 2010 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 288966)
PBS (Parked Bike Syndrome) effects... ;)

Wouldn't that also be PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome)? Some of us get it from the wives.

AngryOlaf Dec 20, 2010 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288961)
For the record, Black Superhawks are cool if you are into that kinda stuff-

Hahaha! Kinda like saying...
"That's the ugliest sweater i've ever seen... oh! but it looks good on you." :D

ttocsmai Dec 20, 2010 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Cyfac0183 (Post 288976)
Just got a call from the owner of the '98- guess i will be riding a Red superhawk

I guess you found another 98 Red in the area. Guess I will keep updating mine during the PBS period.

Cyfac0183 Dec 20, 2010 01:23 PM

well- it was between yours, another red 98 and a yellow 00- you should hang on to yours- then i have someone near-ish by to ride with

Tweety Dec 20, 2010 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by ttocsmai (Post 288977)
Wouldn't that also be PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome)? Some of us get it from the wives.

Could be... ;)


Originally Posted by AngryOlaf (Post 288978)
Hahaha! Kinda like saying...
"That's the ugliest sweater i've ever seen... oh! but it looks good on you." :D

Hmm... For some reason I think Cyfac0183 might fit into this band of misfits... ;) At least he's not too shy... :rotf:

nath981 Dec 22, 2010 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by 8541Hawk (Post 288956)
And you can only wish that you had my black SH....... ;)

pics and mods description might change his mind? I was looking for pics but didn't see any.


this is my favorite black bike and for this price?? what a joke>

http://schenectady.olx.com/2006-yama...es-iid-2680976

http://schenectady.olx.com/2006-yama...d-2680976#pics


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