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Floyd Sep 9, 2017 06:52 AM

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Just picked up a 2000 Superhawk with 35k on the odo!
-tires were low
-oil was overfilled
-the brake fluid was DARK brown
-the oil cooler was installed upside down

The good was new tires, brakes and chain set!

xeris Sep 9, 2017 07:25 AM

Very nice, especially for the second fastest color.
Wouldn't have thought that the oil cooler could be mounted upside down. Maybe the PO was on to something, or on something.

Floyd Sep 9, 2017 07:44 AM

Well I should add that im missing the oil cooler bracket at the moment.
He had the cooler zip tied to the radiator hose!

Bville-Bud Sep 9, 2017 01:06 PM

Congrats!

Wicky Sep 9, 2017 02:45 PM

Sort out the CCTs and R/R amd have fun!

Floyd Sep 9, 2017 05:50 PM

I did the oil and filled up the tank last night but I think I bumped the front plug wire because it went from flawless the night before to shuddering BAD like it was running on one.
I barely touched the wire and it fell out of the boot. Ill wait for it to cool down and twist it back on and try again.

I wouldnt think this bike would hate ethanol gas THAT bad.
Next tank is straight gas!!

Wolverine Sep 9, 2017 07:11 PM

These don't hate ethanol that bad. I've used it here in Pa (87oct) since it was introduced and I've had zero issues...


You're not a barber by chance are you? LOL!

Floyd Sep 9, 2017 07:29 PM

Haha no im not Floyd the barber. Im just plain ol Floyd from FL

Wolverine Sep 9, 2017 07:39 PM

Welcome Floyd. Stay safe down there!!!

Floyd Sep 10, 2017 11:56 AM

Im in the pan handle so I should be more than fine.
I screwed the boot back onto the plug wire and its A LOT better.

At 60mph in 6th and ~3k rpm I do get a slight hiccup. If I rev at about 4k its not as bad. Im thinking it might still be the gas.
At least its a Vtwin again and not a single cylinder!

AlanS Sep 10, 2017 04:30 PM

Wicky hit it, Floyd. Make sure you have manual cam-chain adjusters. The stock regulator/rectifier is not very robust, either. Various ways to address it. Lots of info here.

Nice bike. Why the heck would someone remove the oil cooler brackets???

Alan

Floyd Sep 10, 2017 04:33 PM

I dont have a clue. Looks like I can get the bracket and all cheap though.

finepooch Sep 10, 2017 06:36 PM

welcome on board

lets see some pics. i am surprised it took so long for someone to ask, lol

Floyd Sep 10, 2017 06:56 PM

Let me snag some in the morning

Wolverine Sep 10, 2017 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 403809)
Im in the pan handle so I should be more than fine.
I screwed the boot back onto the plug wire and its A LOT better.

At 60mph in 6th and ~3k rpm I do get a slight hiccup. If I rev at about 4k its not as bad. Im thinking it might still be the gas.
At least its a Vtwin again and not a single cylinder!

5th and 6th don't like to be lugged @ low revs. Very normal behavior, in fact you may experience carb farts in that region. Next time you have the opportunity, pick up some fuel treatment/carb cleaner. I run it regularly and have never had any issues from bad gas or ethanol.

Floyd Sep 10, 2017 07:54 PM

What carb treatment would you suggest?
Ive never used the stuff before.

Wolverine Sep 11, 2017 05:06 AM

We use these at the shop but I'm not implying they're the best.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sup...385046894e.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sup...a230d99e5f.jpg

They are concentrates, so 1 oz treats 2.5 gal. and they are 4 oz containers.

E.Marquez Sep 12, 2017 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 403818)
What carb treatment would you suggest?
Ive never used the stuff before.

None, if they are needed they don't work, if they unneeded they don't do any harm but draining and putting in fresh tier one gas and running a few tanks full will do what can be done chemically.

Thats not meant to be an absolute statement , they're are likely exceptions where the carb junk and resulting issues are taken care of chemically by additives..

That said, never seen it work out that way.....Jets, jet passages blocked by decaying gas, dried up gas leaving behind rock hard sludge and sediments do not fix them selves in my experience with pouring a wounder additive in the gas tank..
For one thing, bikes that wont run at all, gas and its new additive are not going to flow where its needed.
Second, bikes that have these issues are running so bad, no one will ride them long enough to get said gas and additive flowing long enough to dissolve the crud and clean up the issue.

Lastly, I've soaked blocked jets and carb bodies in 100% "fuel system cleaner"
Seafoam, STP, Berrymans, and many others SOMETIMES it dissolves the crud partially leaving behind a layer but the passage is partially clear.... NEVER seen one cleand like new, or as well as after a hour in my heated sonic tank with the correct soap... other times it does not even touch it..Its not always effective on the stuff left behind from degraded or dried up gas.

The time spent hoping it works is off set by the cost to just do it right most times..
If time is not money, buy a can and try it, nothing to loose but $9 and a few days wait. If it clear up the issue awesome....Just don't hold your breath waiting.

Floyd Sep 12, 2017 03:11 PM

Ive also soaked carbs and jets in Berrymans and have had to run wires through them after because it didnt clear it up. And Berrymans is some sick smelling stuff

smokinjoe73 Sep 12, 2017 07:35 PM

Welcome on the best forum ever.

Yellow is faster on a track but red is overall fastest on street.

Everyone is probably sick of me saying it but really if you think its a fuel issue, there is nay but ONE solution.

remove and empty the tank.

If you don't, all that carb cleaning will just get fouled up by the swamp gunk in the bottom of the tank. No other solution will save you the time and headache this simple one will.

I'd also say after that install fuel filters. They too will save you countless hours of carb smashing work.

Best of luck on the new ride. Its got a real cult following for a reason.

Floyd Sep 12, 2017 09:16 PM

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Good lord if red is faster I dont know what I would do! Yellow is PLENTY fast for me.
Here are a few more pics.

smokinjoe73 Sep 13, 2017 06:04 AM

It does look great in yellow. All my racebikes are yellow ala Valentino Rossi.

rktdoc Sep 20, 2017 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 403792)
Just picked up a 2000 Superhawk with 35k on the odo!
-tires were low
-oil was overfilled
-the brake fluid was DARK brown
-the oil cooler was installed upside down

The good was new tires, brakes and chain set!

Welcome Floyd in Florida!!
Sharp bike, really neat 2:1 exhaust!
. Looking at the color of the tip you may be experiencing a bit of a rich burble instead of a gummed up carb.
I would however do as others mentioned and clean out the fuel tank and go from there. Gas is horrible in the Florida pan handle. Actually had a chemist from Chevron tell me that it was some of the worst in the US because our emissions testing was so lacking. Really good job security for me though as most work I did in Florida was fuel related failures and problems!
That will be a good time to check the fuel valve on the tank as well which can cause weird drivability issues and make it very hard to tune. Check your air filter, , surprising how much stuff a tiny mouse can wad in through the snorkel...
If you're ever over in Panama City Beach area there is a road in Bruce that the Superchikens are a hoot ride on. One of few good roads in the area.
Enjoy!!

Floyd Sep 20, 2017 08:08 PM

Never been to Panama City. Heck ive only ever been to Destin once.
I agree the standards are VERY lax here. When I lived in MD it was much better.

captainchaos Sep 21, 2017 04:52 AM

Nice bike, welcome aboard! Don't think running a proper dual exhaust will hurt your chances at making the bike run better either. There's a ton of trial and error info on here if you search regarding that subject. There's a reason HRC and Erion abandoned it on their Superbikes... Always seemed to me like an answer to a question no one asked, which creates more problems than it "solves."

Floyd Sep 21, 2017 05:41 AM

I was wondering about that.
Looking through pictures of other superhawks I havent seen one that has a single can like mine.
Should I be looking into getting a dual setup?
This is just what the PO had on the bike before me.

E.Marquez Sep 21, 2017 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 403809)
Im in the pan handle so I should be more than fine.
I screwed the boot back onto the plug wire and its A LOT better.

At 60mph in 6th and ~3k rpm I do get a slight hiccup. If I rev at about 4k its not as bad. Im thinking it might still be the gas.
At least its a Vtwin again and not a single cylinder!

Sounds like a great candidate for a COP mod.... Not a performance gain, but it does fix performance issues caused by faulty OEM plug wires and coils as well as cleaning up some space and clutter https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...lug-mod-23004/

E.Marquez Sep 21, 2017 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 403905)
I was wondering about that.
Looking through pictures of other superhawks I havent seen one that has a single can like mine.
Should I be looking into getting a dual setup?
This is just what the PO had on the bike before me.

I think I would pick up a cheap, even ratty looking OEM exhaust system and install it so you can eliminate run ability issues caused by a nice looking but perhaps poor performing single exhaust.

xeris Sep 21, 2017 06:42 AM

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Exhaust leaks are never a good thing.
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Floyd Sep 21, 2017 07:21 AM

Im hoping to see someone giving away a stock setup for near nothing.
Im going to rock this setup for some time because I just replaced a ton of stuff and the wallet says exhaust can wait.


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