Harley rider on a Superhawk
10-04-2009, 10:14 PM
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Harley rider on a Superhawk
So we had our annual car and contraption show today. Cars, Motorcycles, tractors, Washing machines(gas powered I swear) and the like. There was my SH parked in a sea of black, 6 or so old beemers. Standing like a ray of sunshine in all it's Yellow Glory. My buddy who's a harley guy says, "can I take your bike for a spin"? I say sure but use my helmet cuz yourz don't match. After 30 minutes or so I hear the rumble climbing the hill. He pulls in and parks. Big grin on his face and says, "Holy ****! What a blast" He said he blipped the throttle in second and the damn thing came up on him. Whooda thunk it? Earlier someone asked him how much his harley and another friends '78 Goldwing weighed. 718 for the Harley and 650 or so for the GW. Then he started my SH and said it sounded rough. I said it is actually purring like a kitten. ( idling at 950 rpm) . It's an Ltwin not an I4 i told him, Not your grandma's Gixxer. I think he's gunna switch sides.
10-04-2009, 11:19 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-twin
as stated L-twins is a general euphemism for 90 deg twins, like you Ducs and what not. More so because its canted forward in that the front jug is near parallel to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_V-twin_motorcycles
The super hawk is a v twin.
the 650 and 250 ninjas are parallel twins.
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10-05-2009, 02:24 AM
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way off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-twin
as stated L-twins is a general euphemism for 90 deg twins, like you Ducs and what not. More so because its canted forward in that the front jug is near parallel to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_V-twin_motorcycles
The super hawk is a v twin.
the 650 and 250 ninjas are parallel twins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-twin
as stated L-twins is a general euphemism for 90 deg twins, like you Ducs and what not. More so because its canted forward in that the front jug is near parallel to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_V-twin_motorcycles
The super hawk is a v twin.
the 650 and 250 ninjas are parallel twins.
Altough an L-twin is an V-twin, but a V-twin isn't an L-twin...
10-05-2009, 05:33 AM
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Then of course you got the other "v" twins, which are not Vee twins but vertical twins, which of course are all parallel twins which aren't however all vertical twins.
Just wanted to be clear about that.
Just wanted to be clear about that.
10-05-2009, 05:40 AM
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10-05-2009, 06:23 AM
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He's been enlightened. He's going through a rough divorce and that was the first smile I've seen on him for some time. The funny thing was the way he toyed with the bike. First sitting on it, then starting it, then asking to ride it and finally taking it for a ride. This took all day.
I'll now refer to it as a twin.
I should have pics from the event soon. I'll try to post
I'll now refer to it as a twin.
I should have pics from the event soon. I'll try to post
10-05-2009, 11:41 AM
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The Washing machine is a late 20's Maytag with a small Hit n' Miss engine. Foot pedal to start and a 20 foot hose to exhaust through outside window. It was a Modern Convenience for the "Modern Farm Wife" as quoted in the Saturday Evening Post of the period. the guy who brought it operated it throughout the day. He also brought a 58 Cub Lowboy, 41 John Deer, 20's Model T, ****** Pick up and a bunch of other stuff. The bikes that showed up ranged from early BMWs, old and new Triumphs, 1 Duc, a few old Guzzis, Mint BSA, et al...
The original owner Plymouth Roadrunner was the car of the day. Beyond mint complete with black fiberglass hood and hood pins(Factory) This car took best in class at Greenwich Concourse last year. The Sunbeam Alpine was sweet as well. A '73 BMW 3.0 CS resto-mod, as was called was sick. A '73 with a new Alpina 3.5 motor, Transmission from a new 7 series beemer and Alpina Seats and rims. A real sleeper. Looks like a nice vintage car but runs like a Ferarri.
The original owner Plymouth Roadrunner was the car of the day. Beyond mint complete with black fiberglass hood and hood pins(Factory) This car took best in class at Greenwich Concourse last year. The Sunbeam Alpine was sweet as well. A '73 BMW 3.0 CS resto-mod, as was called was sick. A '73 with a new Alpina 3.5 motor, Transmission from a new 7 series beemer and Alpina Seats and rims. A real sleeper. Looks like a nice vintage car but runs like a Ferarri.
10-05-2009, 12:12 PM
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The Washing machine is a late 20's Maytag with a small Hit n' Miss engine. Foot pedal to start and a 20 foot hose to exhaust through outside window. It was a Modern Convenience for the "Modern Farm Wife" as quoted in the Saturday Evening Post of the period. the guy who brought it operated it throughout the day. He also brought a 58 Cub Lowboy, 41 John Deer, 20's Model T, ****** Pick up and a bunch of other stuff. The bikes that showed up ranged from early BMWs, old and new Triumphs, 1 Duc, a few old Guzzis, Mint BSA, et al...
The original owner Plymouth Roadrunner was the car of the day. Beyond mint complete with black fiberglass hood and hood pins(Factory) This car took best in class at Greenwich Concourse last year. The Sunbeam Alpine was sweet as well. A '73 BMW 3.0 CS resto-mod, as was called was sick. A '73 with a new Alpina 3.5 motor, Transmission from a new 7 series beemer and Alpina Seats and rims. A real sleeper. Looks like a nice vintage car but runs like a Ferarri.
The original owner Plymouth Roadrunner was the car of the day. Beyond mint complete with black fiberglass hood and hood pins(Factory) This car took best in class at Greenwich Concourse last year. The Sunbeam Alpine was sweet as well. A '73 BMW 3.0 CS resto-mod, as was called was sick. A '73 with a new Alpina 3.5 motor, Transmission from a new 7 series beemer and Alpina Seats and rims. A real sleeper. Looks like a nice vintage car but runs like a Ferarri.
10-05-2009, 02:56 PM
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If I where you I'd go out and measure the angle on the engine in your bike... You'll probably find that like the rest of us it's a 90 degree V-twin... Mine certainly is a 90 degree and hence can be described as both a V-twin and an L-twin...
Altough an L-twin is an V-twin, but a V-twin isn't an L-twin...
Altough an L-twin is an V-twin, but a V-twin isn't an L-twin...
i didn't say the superhawk is not a v twin. It even says in the fac. manual its a 90 v twin.
semantics i tells ya!
10-05-2009, 03:33 PM
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Cool. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it. I like to swap bikes/cars with others for exactly that reason (assuming I've been around them enough to trust their abilities.) Most people still seem to be very against sharing the keys though.
It's juvenile to hate on something you have no experience with.
But FWIW, I rented a new Heritage Softtail for a day. Lets just say I won't be trading my Hawk in on one anytime soon.
It's juvenile to hate on something you have no experience with.
But FWIW, I rented a new Heritage Softtail for a day. Lets just say I won't be trading my Hawk in on one anytime soon.
10-05-2009, 04:01 PM
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10-06-2009, 03:18 PM
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v twins are all v motors, no matter the angle, except 180* which would be called a boxer. v twins are: guzzis, hardleys, buells, aprilias, etc...
L twins are 90*. i think the front cyl is near parallel to the ground. ducs are the prime example but i would think superhawks, rc51s and svs would be included.
i don't think there is such a thing as a vertical twin.
is a parallel twin actually a 360* twin?
hahahahahahaha
i bet that hardley dude loved the hp of the hawk. big smile!
L twins are 90*. i think the front cyl is near parallel to the ground. ducs are the prime example but i would think superhawks, rc51s and svs would be included.
i don't think there is such a thing as a vertical twin.
is a parallel twin actually a 360* twin?
hahahahahahaha
i bet that hardley dude loved the hp of the hawk. big smile!
10-06-2009, 05:00 PM
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v twins are all v motors, no matter the angle, except 180* which would be called a boxer. v twins are: guzzis, hardleys, buells, aprilias, etc...
L twins are 90*. i think the front cyl is near parallel to the ground. ducs are the prime example but i would think superhawks, rc51s and svs would be included.
i don't think there is such a thing as a vertical twin.
is a parallel twin actually a 360* twin?
hahahahahahaha
i bet that hardley dude loved the hp of the hawk. big smile!
L twins are 90*. i think the front cyl is near parallel to the ground. ducs are the prime example but i would think superhawks, rc51s and svs would be included.
i don't think there is such a thing as a vertical twin.
is a parallel twin actually a 360* twin?
hahahahahahaha
i bet that hardley dude loved the hp of the hawk. big smile!
What if the Duke goes up the hill ??
Damn my head hurt, please someone put an end to to our engine identity crisis !!
10-06-2009, 05:15 PM
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If gboezio's head hurts, he probably drank too much beer before he fell asleep.
10-06-2009, 05:35 PM
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v twin going downhill doesn't become an L twin because the front cyl is still not parallel to the ground! same goes for duc going uphill!!! hahahaha hahahaha
i have too much time on my hands. i should go have a few beers with gboezio! beer is cheap in quebec!!!
hahahahai have too much time on my hands. i should go have a few beers with gboezio! beer is cheap in quebec!!!
