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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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The forum shirt design thread

Hi folks. Here we will get this years design set so Jason can start getting us shirts! If you have an idea or really like a design of a shirt, or just a suggestion to make one better, be verbal. Shoot, if you design one yourself, throw it in here. We're going to try to get this done in a reasonable timeframe, and here are the general restrictions:

1) Aiming to stick to one design this year. Possibly even one shirt color? This means that as we discuss designs, we will hopefully narrow it down. According to choice overload theory, you will be happier with one shirt option to purchase at the end.
2) Limited to three colors (four if you count the shirt). The screenprinting process has it's quirks. Also, blending is nearly impossible to do (unless it's just a fade across). It's not a super precise process, but allows for blocks of color, relatively fast print time and is fairly inexpensive.


A couple of thoughts as well: The final design I will clean up, spend some time making it look a little better (consider these rough drafts), and prep for the screenprinting process. I am also open to putting a VTR1000F logo to make it more friendly to overseas buyers. We're still mixing ingredients here, nothing's baked yet.


Here's where it's at right now:

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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I would go for the second over the first but frankly I'm not wild about it, last years was better I think.. Certainly no critisism intended and thank you for taking the time to do it.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Hey, I think the first one is the better one. Using the second shirts back in the first ones colour scheme would be a good combo. How about taking the superhawk name out and insert, VTR/F, and then leave the 996 where it is. Just another thought to address the differences between here and there. Otherwise I would be up for the VTR1000F only.
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Voting for the dark color shirt design.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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The first one with the back design of the second.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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First one for sure. Not even close.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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First one!
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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I only see 1 shirt
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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DOH!!!!
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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I like them both. Definitely the second one, if you could opt for the faster red color (not to mention more attractive to the opposite sex). The 1st one is pretty great too. However, even though we may be limited to one design, I think we should allow both model names. The SuperHawk 996 or FireStorm 996 designations are so much cooler than the generic VTR1000F or VTR/F 996. It would be nice to have a choice. I don't know which name the most VTR1000F's wear, but I would rather display FireStorm 996 instead of VTR... even though I have a SuperHawk.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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I'm not wild about either, I prefer last years too. I like a big design on the back with something small on the front. If the main design is on the froint it looks cheap to me (just my opinion, not trying to hate!). Maybe the small logo of the second design with the first design on the back?
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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^ Good point. I would prefer a large design on the back also.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Here's a thought. Maybe we choose one new design and do a reprint of one of the designs from last year. All the setup it done for those shirts - should be easy enough unless I'm missing something about the process. Use the same parameters for both shirts - one shirt base color with the graphic printed in one color.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nuhawk
do a reprint of one of the designs from last year. All the setup it done for those shirts - should be easy enough unless I'm missing something about the process.
Ehhh. Ryan doesn't save screens if that's what you meant?


Ian, I like both. The first design looks great w/ the Superhawk 996 just as you have it (I don't own a Firestorm). Ryan's machine is a 6 head unit, 4 color process is no problem. He does lots of fire house shirts. Let me try to post an example.
Here is one:


I've seen Ryan do shirts just like those for local houses. They turn out very nice.
I'm not saying design a shirt like that. I'm just letting you know you can use full color. Do that first one up w/ some 4 color process (cmyk)and lets see what it looks like (for ***** and giggles).
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I would go with the second design. As mentioned previously,
the smaller design with the forum name on the front to signify
the group. And on the back, what we enjoy. Maybe a larger
picture, S/H and rider going thru some tight turns with some
front wheel lift after exiting? Current pic is also fine!
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Onomea
I would go with the second design. As mentioned previously,
the smaller design with the forum name on the front to signify
the group. And on the back, what we enjoy. Maybe a larger
picture, S/H and rider going thru some tight turns with some
front wheel lift after exiting? Current pic is also fine!
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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I like the First one, backside and the 2nd one frontside. Thoughts?
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by superchickencornermonster
I like the First one, backside and the 2nd one frontside. Thoughts?
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:30 AM
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second one, might want to set up a poll
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
I like a big design on the back with something small on the front. If the main design is on the froint it looks cheap to me (just my opinion, not trying to hate!). Maybe the small logo of the second design with the first design on the back?
This is totally doable, what we did last time, and also how I like it better too.

Jason... I had no idea that it was possible to screen print graphics in that way... going to have to do a little research to see how that works and what is possible...

I've been manually putting in all of the color blocks on these... it would take a ridiculous amount of time to do that firetruck shirt. But maybe Ryan's process is one that I'm unfamaliar with (the screen printing that I've done was probably 1950's technology)

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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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I'm on board with shirt 2 front and shirt 1 back and definitely "SuperHawk" vs VTR
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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I think having a small logo on the front left breast and large action shot (like JaimeDaugherty, Onomea and Squid mentioned) on the back looks better. Since this is the Superhawk Forum, I would say that's what should be on the shirt.

Just my two cents....
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
Jason... I had no idea that it was possible to screen print graphics in that way... going to have to do a little research to see how that works and what is possible...
I'm going to stop by the shop tomorrow and make sure I'm not a liar. He does those style shirts all the time and he does them well.
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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The Firehouse graphics really pop off the page. Really good looking graphic.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Ian, I stopped by and talked to Ryan this morning. He doesn't usually work in cmyk. He can if it's on a white shirt. Don't worry so much about the break downs. He uses simulated cmyk if you wondered. His new machine is an 8 head. He said if we're going to do one shirt you can make it as colorful as you want. Here's an idea. If we do that first design, say on a charcoal shirt (one color choice only), that would really make it easier for me to offer 2 shirt designs. I would need a minimum of 10 shirts though.

Here's some more ideas:




Old Jan 13, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Holy smokes, I shouldn't have been restraining. Looks like he can do some pretty cool stuff.

Also, it sounds like he has all the capabilities to draw the separate colors from the graphics. For some reason I was worried about needing to do this... almsot like I was going to be making the shirts or something and not a pro!

For those interested, the process looks something similar to this:
Printing 4 color t-shirts on white simulated process with CMYK inks - YouTube
and, yes, I picked the vid for the music.

On a similar note, that Hypermotard shirt is way sick. I love graphics like that. Is Ryan willing to print all the way to the bottom? I would think it would be harder to do on a size run but so far I've been very wrong on everything else he can do!
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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Way cool on the "motard" design.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
it sounds like he has all the capabilities to draw the separate colors from the graphics. For some reason I was worried about needing to do this...
Yes he does break everything down himself, no need for you to do that. And just FYI those shirts weren't his, I just wanted to show you where you can go design wise. The hypermotard isn't a problem, the ink doesn't go from the very top the whole way down. Sleeve graphics can be put on the same screen as some of the other stuff and covered up till needed, he masks off what isn't being used, effectively ganging graphics on one screen.

Remember these?








Cool vid for someone who has never saw t-shirt printing before. I like the music too.
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by woodsrider1
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hey, I sent you a PM about AMMO. Did you not get it?

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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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I sure haven't. Not sure whats going on there. Please resend.



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