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Different handlebars?
I love this bike, and I would love to have one, but I absolutely hate the riding position. It puts way too much of my upper body weight on my arms and hands. Is there a different set of handlebars available for this bike that are both higher and back further?
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This has got to be a common issue with this bike. There's got to be some sort of mods available to fix these uncomfortable handlebars...
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Yes, there are options. Some guys put risers on the upper triple and mount a set of dirtbike style bars.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sup...24cef358fc.jpg |
As was said there are lots of options. Really only limited by your creativity & expertise (or access to someone who can also find the correct parts and do it for you). Mild raise from a pair of Helibars. As far as I know, like a lot of things for our bikes, they're no longer available new. I actually have a pair I was going to put up for sale shortly but get the feeling you're after a bit more. I tried dirtbike bars (you can drill the stock upper triple or get a completely new one) for $hits and giggles on a project once and they were an absolute riot. Fairing clearance issues may follow (and please don't hack up nice stock original fairings lol they're getting impossible to find). Convertibars are really nice and give tons of adjustment in every direction to suit personal tastes. New they are expensive though... You can probably get away with the lines you have now with the Helibars. Anything more will require custom lines, which thankfully aren't really much more than stock length lines. Just measure 5 times. You can also specify what angle you'd like the banjo at for a perfect fit.
This has been on Ebay for awhile if you like the dirtbike/superbike bar option... HONDA VTR1000F SUPER HAWK ABM SUPERBIKE TOP YOKE | eBay |
Originally Posted by Wolverine
(Post 414868)
Yes, there are options. Some guys put risers on the upper triple and mount a set of dirtbike style bars.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sup...24cef358fc.jpg |
Or just buy the whole kit...
VTR1000F Street Fighter Superbike Bar Riser Yoke Triple Conversion 41mm Forks | eBay Again you'll also need longer lines. There are other options. Not sure how much looking around you did already but ABM and LSL also make kits. |
Originally Posted by captainchaos
(Post 414871)
As was said there are lots of options. Really only limited by your creativity & expertise (or access to someone who can also find the correct parts and do it for you). Mild raise from a pair of Helibars. As far as I know, like a lot of things for our bikes, they're no longer available new. I actually have a pair I was going to put up for sale shortly but get the feeling you're after a bit more. I tried dirtbike bars (you can drill the stock upper triple or get a completely new one) for $hits and giggles on a project once and they were an absolute riot. Fairing clearance issues may follow (and please don't hack up nice stock original fairings lol they're getting impossible to find). Convertibars are really nice and give tons of adjustment in every direction to suit personal tastes. New they are expensive though... You can probably get away with the lines you have now with the Helibars. Anything more will require custom lines, which thankfully aren't really much more than stock length lines. Just measure 5 times. You can also specify what angle you'd like the banjo at for a perfect fit.
This has been on Ebay for awhile if you like the dirtbike/superbike bar option... HONDA VTR1000F SUPER HAWK ABM SUPERBIKE TOP YOKE | eBay |
Originally Posted by grampi50
(Post 414872)
Yeah, that's what I'm lookin for. Any idea what hardware and bar these are? Do you know if longer cables, brake lines, etc. had to be installed?
As said, please don't hack up good condition plastics. |
In case it's not obvious, that ABM top yoke on eBay goes on top of the stock yoke. It doesn't replace the stock top yoke. And, I think a spacer, top nut & washer may be missing going by the pictures provided.
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Can you guys list some of the handlebars that can be used that don't require hacking up the fairing or windshield, and some longer cables and brake lines? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by VTR1000F
(Post 414877)
In case it's not obvious, that ABM top yoke on eBay goes on top of the stock yoke. It doesn't replace the stock top yoke. And, I think a spacer, top nut & washer may be missing going by the pictures provided.
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Originally Posted by grampi50
(Post 414879)
Can you guys list some of the handlebars that can be used that don't require hacking up the fairing or windshield, and some longer cables and brake lines? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by captainchaos
(Post 414882)
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Originally Posted by captainchaos
(Post 414881)
When I did my RC51 fork swap back in the day I used Convertibars. They are still made, though not the exact versions I bought. Again they allowed tons of adjustment in every direction and allowed me to clear the stock fairings. Now bear in mind I was using them to fit the RC51 forks into the stock fairings and make everything look factory, not to raise the bars for comfort and still expect them to clear. I only mounted dirtbike bars for a short time on a project bike and still hadn't remounted the fairings so someone else will need to chime in there who's done that. Regarding brake lines you just need to contact any of the major brake line manufacturers. You can probably even order them directly off a website like did. You measure and give them the lengths you want and choose different options like banjo angles, etc. It's been so long I can't remember if mine were from Speigler or Galfer. Just google "custom length braided motorcycle brake lines" and you'll have plenty of choices there. Spiegler, Core, Galfer and HEL immediately come up.
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Originally Posted by grampi50
(Post 414880)
When you say yoke, I assume you're talking about the triple tree? I've never heard it called a yoke before...
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I used Bikemaster Superbike bend handlebars and I think I cut off about an inch and a half off each end to end up with a total bar width of about 27". I have a 954 front end, but I think they would work with the stock fork and triple. I made some risers out of billet. Been more than 15 years. Stock cables and hoses and no fairing cutting. Turning radius sucks.
They're still too low, but better than stock. Convertibars are probably your best bet. |
I went with the LSL kit on my bike. Kit includes longer brake and clutch hoses. https://spieglerusa.com/controls/han...-kit-4284.html
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sup...81e574aa94.jpg |
Originally Posted by grampi50
(Post 414885)
it really isn't providing what I need. What I really need is listing the handlebars that were used (brand, type, and where to buy them),
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Asking you to use the search function isn't blowing you off. I've personally been on here for 17 years so there's at least that long worth of knowledge already packed into this forum from people much smarter than myself. Searching a bit is going to not only get you the information MUCH faster, but you're likely to also get MUCH more info and answers than you're going to get from asking a single question in 2022 to a forum where probably at least half the active members have long moved on to newer bikes. Kind of off topic but related question. Have you ever sat on a 1st gen FZ1? V-twin "personality" aside (and the fact that it's a bit bigger and sits pretty high) it's pretty much a better bike in every respect. Better brakes, way more power and probably the exact seating position you're looking for. And they sell used for around the same price. I have a soft spot for Superhawks (and at least one has always remained in my garage) and have owned many bikes over the years including a modded ZX12 and modded Hayabusa but my '01 FZ1 was the best all around motorcycle I personally have ever ridden. Just another option...
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Funny you should mention it. The two bikes I currently own are a Superhawk and a 2001 FZ1.
Although the Superhawk has a 954 front end and the brakes are better than the FZ1, everything else tips in favor of the FZ. Handling, power, comfort, gas mileage are all better on the FZ. The Honda gets ridden only a fraction of the time that the Yamaha does these days, and I do still love the Superhawk. |
Originally Posted by killer5280
(Post 414906)
Funny you should mention it. The two bikes I currently own are a Superhawk and a 2001 FZ1.
Although the Superhawk has a 954 front end and the brakes are better than the FZ1, everything else tips in favor of the FZ. Handling, power, comfort, gas mileage are all better on the FZ. The Honda gets ridden only a fraction of the time that the Yamaha does these days, and I do still love the Superhawk. For the bars,if you didn't already notice, the photo of the yellow SH has had the fairings and wind screen cut. To get any where close to an upright/sit up and beg riding position the fairings will get in the way. Another option would be Bars from a 90'-'05 VFR. No cutting of the fairings. It's an improvement, but it's still a somewhat aggressive riding position. All this old stuff is getting harder to find. Here is another option. What I am currently using. Wow have the prices gone up! https://revivalcycles.com/products/t...39629548847169 This looks a bit sketchy, maybe real, but the price is better. https://www.treatland.tv/ProductDeta...QaAvw2EALw_wcB |
More options.
https://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=41099 |
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Originally Posted by Wolverine
(Post 414898)
Can I ask you how much time you've spent with the search function? Can't just expect everyone to do all the hard work for you...
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[QUOTE=xeris;414912]The FZ1 was a beast.
For the bars,if you didn't already notice, the photo of the yellow SH has had the fairings and wind screen cut. To get any where close to an upright/sit up and beg riding position the fairings will get in the way. Another option would be Bars from a 90'-'05 VFR. No cutting of the fairings. It's an improvement, but it's still a somewhat aggressive riding position. All this old stuff is getting harder to find. Here is another option. What I am currently using. Wow have the prices gone up! https://revivalcycles.com/products/t...39629548847169 Holy Molly!!! I think I paid under $100 many moons ago for the Tommasellis, which I kept when installed the Dan-Moto 3D adjustable clip-ons that are wonderful except you should replace the SHCS and Nylock nuts with SS quality items. However the 3D are not currently made but maybe a dozen years ago I also got them for about $100! |
If you dont like the motocross bar look or feel you can also use VFR800 bars. I have a set laying around somewhere. Also a brand named apex makes some insanely nice bars called apex riser bars. They are infinitely adjustable in different riser heights.
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Originally Posted by smokinjoe73
(Post 415442)
If you dont like the motocross bar look or feel you can also use VFR800 bars. I have a set laying around somewhere. Also a brand named apex makes some insanely nice bars called apex riser bars. They are infinitely adjustable in different riser heights.
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Seems odd stuff was hitting both the fairing and the tank. How hard were the reservoirs hitting the fairing? I believe people have put washers or other spacers between the fairing and the frame to add clearance and avoid trimming. Maybe that would make it work?
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