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CentralCoaster 03-04-2009 06:16 PM

Can you come to a complete stop without putting a foot down?
 
Every time I ride, I'm practicing something.

When I'm in bumper-to-bumper traffic or waiting in line at a stop sign, I try going as slow as I can, and usually never have to put my foot down, even though I see other riders doing so.

But coming to a complete stop seems tough, maybe impossible. Obviously the bike will fall over if you stop for too long, but I'd like to think I can do it.

Now if there's a cop there, I'm putting my foot down regardless, because I know that's one of the things they look for.

I've seen guys on bicycles sit there for 5-10 seconds and balance the bike while stopped.

SlowHAWK 03-04-2009 06:20 PM

I can usually stop without touching for a few seconds... but once I feel it going one way or the other feet down as fast as possible... nothing would make you look more stupid than dropping that bike in traffic and possibly asking someone for help to get it back up!!!

J.

Zedicus 03-04-2009 06:22 PM

stop quick, use the forward backward rocking motion to keep you from going side to side. i can hit a stop sign and sit there long enough to please a cop with out putting a foot down.

when you try to come to a gradual slow stop you are more likely to go over sideways cuz its hard to keep the bike steady up at ultra low speeds. especially on something that doesnt have much front tire side to side movement.

also when your new to doing it stand up while your doing it. it helps.

nuhawk 03-04-2009 06:25 PM

I have the same interests in keeping attention down the road not about the stop. There was (is) a competition at the Sturgis event where the longest rider at a dead stop that keeps his feet off the ground wins the trophy. Don't quote me but I think the last winner was in the 5 minute mark. I wiggle around in the lane a little at low speeds but it's only looking for a way to get out front once the light goes green. I hate cagers. And it keeps my tires warm. :rotf:

k-d-williams 03-04-2009 06:34 PM

Why yes, yes I can. Practice it daily. I've never timed it, but can for quite a while unless its windy.

nuhawk 03-04-2009 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by k-d-williams (Post 203765)
Why yes, yes I can. Practice it daily. I've never timed it, but can for quite a while unless its windy.

No you can't - a complete stop to you is 50 mph.

txrb182sc 03-04-2009 06:58 PM

Lol, I can't wait to get my bike back from the Army shippers now that I'm finally moved down to San Antonio and done with the military thing. About balancing at a stop I don't have enough experience on my bike to do it for very long yet, but given enough practice I'll bet I can do it for quite a while, long enough for a complete stop definitely.

oahu hawk 03-04-2009 07:27 PM

I do it regularly...you have to come to a complete stop at least twice during the Hawaii state motorcycle driver's test...

Pimpsterbim1 03-04-2009 08:06 PM

Legaly NO, at least Ohio says you have to have a foot down..

Hotbrakes 03-04-2009 08:36 PM

I'm good for a few (couple) seconds. If I can ever so slowly move with a little clutch/rear brake action I'm good. Something I learned from a motor cop. For those who can do it for a long time, how the hell do you? What's the secret?

Zedicus 03-05-2009 06:27 AM

stop quickly, dont try to creep to an ultra slow stop.

lynchie 03-05-2009 07:02 AM

i use the force to hold me up. the same force Luke used to lift those boxes when he was traing with Yoda!

Little_Horse 03-05-2009 07:29 AM

those where connected to wires...

VTRsurfer 03-05-2009 08:20 AM

A friend of mine got a ticket about 25 years ago on his 750 Interceptor for not coming to a full stop at a stop sign. He went to court on it, and the cop said "you didn't put your feet down, therefore you didn't stop". He told the judge "I can come to a complete stop without putting my feet down". He won.:cool:

rbrais 03-05-2009 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Hotbrakes (Post 203792)
I'm good for a few (couple) seconds. If I can ever so slowly move with a little clutch/rear brake action I'm good. Something I learned from a motor cop. For those who can do it for a long time, how the hell do you? What's the secret?

Just good balance. I used to practice on a mountain bike. Could hold it up for 5-10 minutes.

hawxter996 03-05-2009 09:01 AM

i did it once ....while drunk.


yeah i know.......stupid!


yeah i practice this

swordfish 03-05-2009 11:33 AM

I can do it for a while. I practice cause I like to freak people out when they are behind me and see me stop but...what's holding him up?? especially other bikers. once you are stopped, if you feel like you're gonna lose it, just let yourself creep forway just a tiny bit. the tiny forward motion while reset your center of balance and will help you stay up.

yruyur 03-05-2009 12:04 PM

I think it has to do with your tire condition as well. With The flat spots I had on my old tires i could hold it longer. My new tires are so rounded it's pretty difficult. The guy at sturgis probably had a 300 series tire, in fact he could have had the air out of it as well, he may have been able to get off the bike and go get a beer and come back to his bike still standing, lol

JamieDaugherty 03-05-2009 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Pimpsterbim1 (Post 203788)
Legaly NO, at least Ohio says you have to have a foot down..


Good point. Over here in Indiana if you don't put your foot down then you technically haven't stopped yet. Even if you balance motionless for 10-15 seconds, if you don't touch your foot to the ground you could be written up for failure to yield.

I can balance for an instant but not much longer. I like to slightly bump the clutch when at a traffic light. You get some weird stares because it looks like you are stopped without touching.

Jim TT 03-05-2009 06:21 PM

Yes

VTRsurfer 03-05-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Jim TT (Post 203979)
Yes

Good answer Jim. Clear, concise and yet not to wordy.:rolleyes:

RK1 03-05-2009 06:33 PM

Yeah, there goes Jim, hogging up all the bandwith.

zmaniv 03-05-2009 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jim TT (Post 203979)
Yes

1+

Death Cattle 03-05-2009 07:48 PM

absolutely. for lengths of time is when it gets tough. clearly you havent seen unbeatable banzuke, or you would have seen the super rider challenge. the guys on there bicycles on that show can stay still as long as they want standing on the pegs. crazy asians.

divingindaytona 03-05-2009 07:55 PM

Yes. Years ago I did this all the time on my mountain bike, the skill crosses over. Use the back brake.

Hawkrider 03-05-2009 09:39 PM

It's a little easier on a bicycle dontcha think? A motorcycle is completely different. Apples to apples....

tapatio 03-08-2009 06:07 PM

i do it all the time on my road bicycle. its easy after practice and super easy on an incline where you can rock forward and backward. i have to have the front wheel cocked over about 30 degrees to do it. its even easier on a fixed gear (track) bicycle as you can move forward and backward using the pedals (no incline required). do you guys maintain the front wheel straight ahead when doing it on a motorcycle?

Truckinduc 03-08-2009 06:09 PM

I can do it, but thats cause im an ex trials rider.

I can stay on one wheel of a bicycle for as long as I want.

skokievtr 03-08-2009 10:03 PM

U mean your supposed to put a foot down when you stop?

JamieDaugherty 03-09-2009 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by tapatio (Post 204379)
do you guys maintain the front wheel straight ahead when doing it on a motorcycle?

Turning the front wheel a bit seems to help. Just be careful not to 'over-do' it because it can be difficult to recover. I try not to be a hero, when it starts to go I just put my foot down.


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