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VTRsurfer 05-31-2011 03:39 PM

Pick-up driver tries to kill motorcyclist
 
A friend emailed this to me. Sorry, but I don't know how to post the link to Youtube.

Go to Youtube and search "pick-up driver tries to kill motorcyclist".

It happens on a country road in Bracken County, Kentucky. I've had similar experiences, and it's hard to figure what makes these people tick.

Bluesuperhawk83 05-31-2011 03:48 PM

Pickup driver tries to run motorcyclist off the road — Autoblog

yeah thats been on another forum i read for several days. check out some of the asshat comments that were posted. a good reason to CCW while motorcycling... - Glock Talk Alot of morons there think its the bikers fault.

Personaly i would have shot him when he came at me with the pipe.

thetophatflash 05-31-2011 04:32 PM

Nice road!

Tinyhuge 05-31-2011 04:58 PM

Wow I'm seeing red after watching the video. I have a feeling I would have been arrested after the confrontation if I was involved...

Bluesuperhawk83 05-31-2011 05:05 PM

Seems to me an attempted murder charge would teach that redneck some manners. I know it would never stick but it might humble him some.

InZanity 05-31-2011 06:34 PM

Great video to watch as i am just learning to ride.
thanks.

mboe794 05-31-2011 07:43 PM

Something similar to this happened to me once a couple years ago. My buddy passes, then the guy tries to run me off the road when I attempted to pass. I was forced into grabbing a handful of brake. Then he proceeded to "toy" with me for a while with constant slowing and accelerating. I just decided to ride it out and calmly follow. After a few miles he parked sideways right in the middle of the road! I stopped for a second, but I wasn't about to engage in any confrontation. Who knows what kind of weapon some hillbilly might be toting around. His door opened, I bolted.

But I gotta say that I don't entirely blame these people for getting pissed. However, they dealt with it in a very irresponsible way. Most of us riders aint exactly saints. The dude in the vid mentions something about growing up on that road. I mean, how would you feel if day after day bikes are screaming by your front lawn? Sometimes triple the speed limit. And lets say you have zero interest in motorcycles, and a few youngans running around.

Ever since my little incident, this type of thing crosses my mind every time I come up to make a pass on double yellow or at elevated speeds. Myself, and many of the guys I ride with, have started giving a little wave as we pass. We figure a little recognition, as opposed to total ignorance, goes a long way to not anger people so much. I even try to wave when if I happen to notice someone just sitting on their porch. Maybe shift up a gear sometimes too. Basically, I just try to be a little more respectful.

Maybe it will improve some peoples view of motorcyclists, maybe not. But can't hurt. Plus, nearly every car has a cell phone nowadays. Maybe people are less likely to call the cops on a "friendly" guy.

joshuatest 05-31-2011 07:55 PM

This happened in Northern Ky... I've been following it since about a day after it happened...

There was some debate over if the riders wanted to turn the video in, fearing that the double yellow pass would stick in the minds of those who don't ride, and it would backfire on them... But it looks like after thinking it over, they did allow authorities to have the video, and as of now, they are ignoring the double yellow pass and speed questions for the riders...

i hope they cook this f'er...

Bluesuperhawk83 05-31-2011 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by joshuatest (Post 304636)
This happened in Northern Ky... I've been following it since about a day after it happened...

There was some debate over if the riders wanted to turn the video in, fearing that the double yellow pass would stick in the minds of those who don't ride, and it would backfire on them... But it looks like after thinking it over, they did allow authorities to have the video, and as of now, they are ignoring the double yellow pass and speed questions for the riders...

i hope they cook this f'er...


Honestly, I would gladly take the improper passing ticket if it meant crucifying the moron in the pickup.

killer5280 05-31-2011 08:23 PM

I always carry when riding and I would have been mighty tempted to shoot him at the stop. The guy should be in jail.


He looked drunk to me.

nothing 05-31-2011 08:28 PM

haha passing on a double yellow and speeding is a light slap on the wrist, maybe a wreckless op, I would have turned the video over if I were in it. good for them for remaining calm and shame on that man for acting irresponsibly. I, however, would never pass like that, patience is a virtue did we all forget?

VTRsurfer 05-31-2011 09:29 PM

In the early '80s I was riding with 2 friends, who were ahead of me, on Carbon Canyon Road (a rural road in SoCal which was lightly traveled at that time). They both got past this slow moving low rider Monte Carlo with 3 or 4 guys in it, and I figured I had just enough room before the upcoming sharp lefthander. As I started to go around him, he punched it into passing gear. I made it around him, but there was no way I was making the lefthander, so I went wide into the dirt, around a telephone pole, then back onto the asphalt on the other side of the curve, ahead of the Monte Carlo.

When I caught up to my buddies about a mile down the road, we waited for them to come along, but they never did.

That's only one of the many times I've had a cager try to take me out (or hang me out to dry) in the 30 years and 190,000 miles I've been riding.

The guys in that video did the right thing. The rear rider hung back, since it was possible suicide to attempt a pass.

I don't understand the mentality of idiots who try to kill motorcyclists.

autoteach 05-31-2011 09:33 PM

Ha, your so old Surfer!

VTRsurfer 05-31-2011 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by autoteach (Post 304649)
Ha, your so old Surfer!

I don't look that old, my hair's still blond, but my body feels it sometimes. 64 years with a lot of good times, and still doing the canyons. There are a few of us on the forum.

You're as old as you feel.

autoteach 05-31-2011 10:04 PM

I just thought it was funny because you were riding with friends when I was crapping a diaper. Just saying...

VTRsurfer 05-31-2011 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by autoteach (Post 304652)
I just thought it was funny because you were riding with friends when I was crapping a diaper. Just saying...

No sweat... Frequently, when I'm riding one of my shortboards at the local beachbreak near my house, I'm old enough to be the grandfather of all the other guys in the water.

And actually I've been riding since 1964. I just never owned a bike until 1981.

98VTRrider 06-01-2011 07:54 AM

Id like to know whatever happened from this incident, if the truck driver got any charges or anything. I've had a woman recently lock her breaks up in front of me then flip out at a stop sign because I was following kinda close looking for a chance to pass her...people are scary

Old Yeller 06-01-2011 08:47 AM

Real tempting to beat the guy to a pulp, but it's happened to me and my buddy several times. I'd be curious to know the outcome of turning over the tape. is there a local web site to follow it?

nothing 06-01-2011 01:22 PM

read somewhere that it is LEGAL to pass on double yellow in certain situations in KY. ain't that some shit?

joshuatest 06-01-2011 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by nothing (Post 304699)
read somewhere that it is LEGAL to pass on double yellow in certain situations in KY. ain't that some shit?

I think this would only apply in situations following a tractor or something... However I ride lots of KY back roads, and while I try my best to only pass in a passing zone, I have on occasion made a decision to (in my opinion) make a safe pass in a double yellow based on available visual range and such...

I think the riders where more worried about a reckless driving ticket and having the cops constantly patrol the road for biker after seeing it... it doesn't look like that is the case...

here is the original thread.... sorry, LOTS of pages of not much good info...

KY 10, 22 Riders WARNING

VTRsurfer 06-01-2011 10:40 PM

At least half of the drivers won't pull over to let a motorcycle, or anyone, pass. So I wait until I have a clear, safe shot, then get around them quickly. And on a tight road, that can take a while.

But it is a crap shoot, as far as getting nailed for a ticket. Here in SoCal the CHP sometimes uses the "eye in the sky" to get motorcyclists for unsafe moves on popular canyon roads.

And when a driver does pull over to allow a pass, I always give them a big wave.:D

lukenukem47 06-08-2011 12:18 AM

I pity the fool that is stupid enough to do that to me. 1. My hand to hand is the same training that correction/ police get trained in. 2. I have advanced knife avoidance training. Along with the little trick that removes a pistol and breaks fingers at the same time. And last, I am a Uspsa competition speed shooter that has a ccw and my fastest draw time is just under a second. I don't look tough but at a arms length I can take a knife while in the hand of a suspect and plant it just under his ribcage almost faster then drawing my gun. I am also PPCT certified. I will put someone in the hospital unless he shows deadly force then he will go to a funeral. I have had only one chance to use my skills and by the second hit the guy was falling to his knees while trying to keep from passing out. This fall I hope to be picked up by Michigan dept of corrections or detroit police. Latly been leaning in the area of 911 dispatch because of the layoff's, Not sure yet who knows.

Bluesuperhawk83 06-08-2011 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by lukenukem47 (Post 305457)
I pity the fool that is stupid enough to do that to me. 1. My hand to hand is the same training that correction/ police get trained in. 2. I have advanced knife avoidance training. Along with the little trick that removes a pistol and breaks fingers at the same time. And last, I am a Uspsa competition speed shooter that has a ccw and my fastest draw time is just under a second. I don't look tough but at a arms length I can take a knife while in the hand of a suspect and plant it just under his ribcage almost faster then drawing my gun. I am also PPCT certified. I will put someone in the hospital unless he shows deadly force then he will go to a funeral. I have had only one chance to use my skills and by the second hit the guy was falling to his knees while trying to keep from passing out. This fall I hope to be picked up by Michigan dept of corrections or detroit police. Latly been leaning in the area of 911 dispatch because of the layoff's, Not sure yet who knows.


I think you are gonna need those skills in detroit. Good luck with your hiring process, I hear it is long and stressful.

nekkid 06-08-2011 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by lukenukem47 (Post 305457)
I pity the fool that is stupid enough to do that to me. 1. My hand to hand is the same training that correction/ police get trained in. 2. I have advanced knife avoidance training. Along with the little trick that removes a pistol and breaks fingers at the same time. And last, I am a Uspsa competition speed shooter that has a ccw and my fastest draw time is just under a second. I don't look tough but at a arms length I can take a knife while in the hand of a suspect and plant it just under his ribcage almost faster then drawing my gun. I am also PPCT certified. I will put someone in the hospital unless he shows deadly force then he will go to a funeral. I have had only one chance to use my skills and by the second hit the guy was falling to his knees while trying to keep from passing out. This fall I hope to be picked up by Michigan dept of corrections or detroit police. Latly been leaning in the area of 911 dispatch because of the layoff's, Not sure yet who knows.

When pressed, I'm pretty good at swearing...


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