Obamageddon!
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That's also my main problem with the Tea Party movement, the NRA, or various other groups that I tend to agree with... is that the people on the front lines that get the most press often act like lunatics.
Sometimes the best thing you can do for your cause is sit down and don't embarrass everyone else that believes in it, let someone else do the talking instead. It's unfortunate that people judge on image and not content, but it's a fact of life and we should be cognizant of that. I dunno, maybe I'm the exception, but I think cooler heads usually prevail.
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Lynch mob---
yeah, sometimes people, those red blooded Americans, get a little upset when an elected official, oh I am sorry, the most powerful elected official, will not publish documentation of his true identity and origin. And before you get all **** and vinegar, identity has more to it than his name (I am sure his name is Barack Obama).
In reply to whoever it was that was b-itchin about us talking and not doing. As soon as the people start doing... Oh my goodness, would you look at that extremist who is out trying to get answers???? Well, I will just be cool headed and wait for it to fix itself...
Simple fixes that won't happen:
1. pull troops
2. who gives a rip about the big three, no money for them. let them fail.
3. we should have just payed off everyone's mortgages, instead of bailing out the banks. real simple-take an american household that is struggling to make the bills, pay their loan, they go "yippee" and start spending money elsewhere
4. seal the borders, ship the illegals back
5. we had nafta, what we need is nada. As in, if we can't make it here, we don't need it. calm down, I know the bikes in the US suck, but we can't continue with trade defecit. I am tired of fixing all this bullshit chinese scooter crap that comes into the shop. 60 miles, caliper fell off. We do not sell these(we don't sell anything, just fix), so it isn't my fault.
add to this as you will
yeah, sometimes people, those red blooded Americans, get a little upset when an elected official, oh I am sorry, the most powerful elected official, will not publish documentation of his true identity and origin. And before you get all **** and vinegar, identity has more to it than his name (I am sure his name is Barack Obama).
In reply to whoever it was that was b-itchin about us talking and not doing. As soon as the people start doing... Oh my goodness, would you look at that extremist who is out trying to get answers???? Well, I will just be cool headed and wait for it to fix itself...
Simple fixes that won't happen:
1. pull troops
2. who gives a rip about the big three, no money for them. let them fail.
3. we should have just payed off everyone's mortgages, instead of bailing out the banks. real simple-take an american household that is struggling to make the bills, pay their loan, they go "yippee" and start spending money elsewhere
4. seal the borders, ship the illegals back
5. we had nafta, what we need is nada. As in, if we can't make it here, we don't need it. calm down, I know the bikes in the US suck, but we can't continue with trade defecit. I am tired of fixing all this bullshit chinese scooter crap that comes into the shop. 60 miles, caliper fell off. We do not sell these(we don't sell anything, just fix), so it isn't my fault.
add to this as you will
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Simple fixes that won't happen:
1. pull troops
2. who gives a rip about the big three, no money for them. let them fail.
3. we should have just payed off everyone's mortgages, instead of bailing out the banks. real simple-take an american household that is struggling to make the bills, pay their loan, they go "yippee" and start spending money elsewhere
4. seal the borders, ship the illegals back
5. we had nafta, what we need is nada. As in, if we can't make it here, we don't need it. calm down, I know the bikes in the US suck, but we can't continue with trade defecit. I am tired of fixing all this bullshit chinese scooter crap that comes into the shop. 60 miles, caliper fell off. We do not sell these(we don't sell anything, just fix), so it isn't my fault.
add to this as you will
1. pull troops
2. who gives a rip about the big three, no money for them. let them fail.
3. we should have just payed off everyone's mortgages, instead of bailing out the banks. real simple-take an american household that is struggling to make the bills, pay their loan, they go "yippee" and start spending money elsewhere
4. seal the borders, ship the illegals back
5. we had nafta, what we need is nada. As in, if we can't make it here, we don't need it. calm down, I know the bikes in the US suck, but we can't continue with trade defecit. I am tired of fixing all this bullshit chinese scooter crap that comes into the shop. 60 miles, caliper fell off. We do not sell these(we don't sell anything, just fix), so it isn't my fault.
add to this as you will
See, they're going to come here anyways. We have way way too much border to secure. We'd spend more making the border a fortress than what we'd save by not having illlegals here. It's just pragmatism. "Send'em all back!" sounds hard-*** and tough and everything but it's not really workable. We really need to examine why and how they are coming here. It's not as simple as, America rules and Mexico sucks. To solve a problem we need understand why it's happening. Sealing the border is impractical. We need to make it a lot less attractive for people to come here illegally, while maintaining a decent standard of living ourselves. It's a bigger challenge than fortifying the border, but it's more rewarding and it's a longer lasting solution.
Damn are we really on the birth certificate thing now? Wow.
RK1 you are welcome for the waist-high slowball or whatever. It wasn't meant to be some kind of SUPER HARDASS CHALLENGE OF MANLINESS, just a general question. Thanks for responding in detail though. You may return to drinking bourbon and fondling your shotgun.
Whiskey is my favorite drink, for the record. Scotch in particular.
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Honolulu Advertiser newspaper; August 13, 1961
House Resolution 593, 7/27/09:
"Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;"
Passed 378-0, 55 not voting (common). Even Michelle Bachmann voted for it.
Also adopted as Senate Resolution 225, voice vote, not recorded vote (also common).
House Resolution 593, 7/27/09:
"Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;"
Passed 378-0, 55 not voting (common). Even Michelle Bachmann voted for it.
Also adopted as Senate Resolution 225, voice vote, not recorded vote (also common).
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I'd like to see the original; I've got mine.
I also have a "Copy" -(a real, old-style ZEROX) of the original, but stamped w/ an embossed seal and I have a recent state generated "legal" one like that above. My Mom had the original somewhere for years and found it some years ago. I had requested the "Copy" when I reached majority and had a "legal" version for caribbean vacations and such.
A newspaper ad is hardly an official source?
If you were a teen estranged from your husband and newly single in the States with your whelp after your excellent adventure, wouldn't you take steps to "legitimize" it?
I don't know how much of anyone's story in this story is the truth and I don't agree with all that's on this page, but it's food for thought and just as authoritative as a newspaper clipping from the want ads...
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...uld-stanl.html
I also have a "Copy" -(a real, old-style ZEROX) of the original, but stamped w/ an embossed seal and I have a recent state generated "legal" one like that above. My Mom had the original somewhere for years and found it some years ago. I had requested the "Copy" when I reached majority and had a "legal" version for caribbean vacations and such.
A newspaper ad is hardly an official source?
If you were a teen estranged from your husband and newly single in the States with your whelp after your excellent adventure, wouldn't you take steps to "legitimize" it?
I don't know how much of anyone's story in this story is the truth and I don't agree with all that's on this page, but it's food for thought and just as authoritative as a newspaper clipping from the want ads...
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...uld-stanl.html
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It's all very weird.
In law there is the concept of best evidence.
Imagine you are a juror. The state claims the defendant is guilty of burglary. Claims to have a number of pieces of circumstantial evidence AND a video tape clearly showing the burglar's face, his getaway car including the license plate.
At trial the circumstantial evidence is produced but the prosecution refuses to show the video, which everyone agrees does in fact exist.
Best evidence is Obama's original long form birth certificate. State of Hawaii says they have it on file. Obama refuses to grant permission for its release. Why?
In law there is the concept of best evidence.
Imagine you are a juror. The state claims the defendant is guilty of burglary. Claims to have a number of pieces of circumstantial evidence AND a video tape clearly showing the burglar's face, his getaway car including the license plate.
At trial the circumstantial evidence is produced but the prosecution refuses to show the video, which everyone agrees does in fact exist.
Best evidence is Obama's original long form birth certificate. State of Hawaii says they have it on file. Obama refuses to grant permission for its release. Why?
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This questioning of the birth certificate is silly. When you make a week point and continue to press it in the face of strong evidence to the contrary it simply undermines your greater argument. I am not sure what your greater argument is; Obama is not a good president, he is a Socialist, he is not a legitimate president etc but at this point the discussion should move beyond the validity of the birth certificate. I was born in 1951 and the embossed BC that I have is no longer available; you simply cannot get one, the hall of records in Calhoun County has gone to computerized records.
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This questioning of the birth certificate is silly. When you make a week point and continue to press it in the face of strong evidence to the contrary it simply undermines your greater argument. I am not sure what your greater argument is; Obama is not a good president, he is a Socialist, he is not a legitimate president etc but at this point the discussion should move beyond the validity of the birth certificate. I was born in 1951 and the embossed BC that I have is no longer available; you simply cannot get one the hall or records in Calhoun Country has gone to computerized records.
Jim;
The only point I make about the birth certificate is that it's weird that he refuses to release it.
Again, Hawaii says they do in fact have Obama's original long form hard copy bc on file and the only reason the public and press can't see it is because Obama has refused to allow it.
Aren't you curious why? I am.
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I'm not claiming the guy isn't a natural born American, without seeing the original BC I have no way of knowing.
I'm saying this guy claims to be the most up front, honest and "transparent" leader in human history but refuses to let anybody see his birth certificate.
There is something on that document that he is apparently scared shitless of people seeing. I'd just like to know what it is!
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All those who think that another piece of paper would make the birthers say "OK. Got it. Sorry to have troubled you." and go away, raise your hands. 
Or for that matter, a Supreme Court decision affirming explicitly the dismissals of this issue by lower courts. The Court has already refused to review one such decision, which s the most common way they agree with the lower court.
The folks who claim NASA faked the Moon landings still proclaim it, in spite of an avalanche of contrary evidence.
Or for that matter, a Supreme Court decision affirming explicitly the dismissals of this issue by lower courts. The Court has already refused to review one such decision, which s the most common way they agree with the lower court.
The folks who claim NASA faked the Moon landings still proclaim it, in spite of an avalanche of contrary evidence.
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Just a matter of curiousity on my part, but when did we start researching the birth records of our presidents? I mean, I don't remember this kind of interest in the origins of all the presidents in my lifetime: Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan.... It seems like every time someone comes up with information verifying the guy was born in Hawaii, it's never good enough. They must be in on the conspiracy maybe?
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All those who think that another piece of paper would make the birthers say "OK. Got it. Sorry to have troubled you." and go away, raise your hands.
Or for that matter, a Supreme Court decision affirming explicitly the dismissals of this issue by lower courts. The Court has already refused to review one such decision, which s the most common way they agree with the lower court.
The folks who claim NASA faked the Moon landings still proclaim it, in spite of an avalanche of contrary evidence.
Or for that matter, a Supreme Court decision affirming explicitly the dismissals of this issue by lower courts. The Court has already refused to review one such decision, which s the most common way they agree with the lower court.
The folks who claim NASA faked the Moon landings still proclaim it, in spite of an avalanche of contrary evidence.
It isn't just "another piece of paper", it's the original real thing, the best evidence, the thing Obama refuses to grant access to.
Why is that?
If there is a primary document that proves Obama a natural born citizen, makes the "birthers" look like ********, why would you or Obama oppose its release to the public? Doesn't make a bit of sense to me.
If these "birthers" are paranoid freaks, why not call their bluff and release the god damn ******* birth certificate?
It all boils down to this;
What is the problem with the BC that Obama won't just release the ******* thing?
Do you have an answer? What is the problem?
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Okay, so we can't send all of the illegals back because of the staggering number of them. Sure we could tax them, but how many are working for cash? And how do you catch the money before its sent back? I agree it ts a much bigger problem than you can wave a wand at, but it is a big problem.
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Here is a guess; The BC has very little information:
Name of Mother
Race of Mother
Occupation of Mother
Name of Father ETC.
If the original says: Mothers Occupation- welfare or unemployed or cleaning lady or prostitute…..
And Fathers Occupation is Unknown etc.
Then perhaps the President is simply trying to protect his Mother as there is nothing that could reflect negatively on him being only one day old.
Name of Mother
Race of Mother
Occupation of Mother
Name of Father ETC.
If the original says: Mothers Occupation- welfare or unemployed or cleaning lady or prostitute…..
And Fathers Occupation is Unknown etc.
Then perhaps the President is simply trying to protect his Mother as there is nothing that could reflect negatively on him being only one day old.
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AUTO SAYS
Isn’t it interesting that Government can never seem to move the ball forward on any of the major problems we face!
Okay, so we can't send all of the illegals back because of the staggering number of them. Sure we could tax them, but how many are working for cash? And how do you catch the money before its sent back? I agree it ts a much bigger problem than you can wave a wand at, but it is a big problem.
Isn’t it interesting that Government can never seem to move the ball forward on any of the major problems we face!
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Could this birth certificate issue be a red herring--a diversion from the communizing of this country through federal government usurpation of powers never intended for it nor authorized by the Constitution? Could it be a distraction from the theft of trillions of dollars by the banks through their proxies in the Treasury, the Federal Reserve the White House and Congress? Sure it could.
There are plenty of things to be outraged and concerned about when it comes to what's happening in this country, and of course it didn't start with Obama. But what we're getting from his administration is more of the same old same old and none of the change and transparency we were promised during his campaign, which is no surprise to anyone who understands what national politics is really all about and who is really running things.
Obama has gone to great lengths and spent a great deal of money to avoid disclosure of his birth certificate. Labeling people "birthers", using straw man arguments and smear by association and siding with those (Obama) who have nearly unlimited power and resources against ordinary people who are rightly demanding that the "president" comply with constitutional requirements is the antithesis of what this country is supposed to be all about. Obama doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt and he doesn't deserve to be given a pass on anything.
There are plenty of things to be outraged and concerned about when it comes to what's happening in this country, and of course it didn't start with Obama. But what we're getting from his administration is more of the same old same old and none of the change and transparency we were promised during his campaign, which is no surprise to anyone who understands what national politics is really all about and who is really running things.
Obama has gone to great lengths and spent a great deal of money to avoid disclosure of his birth certificate. Labeling people "birthers", using straw man arguments and smear by association and siding with those (Obama) who have nearly unlimited power and resources against ordinary people who are rightly demanding that the "president" comply with constitutional requirements is the antithesis of what this country is supposed to be all about. Obama doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt and he doesn't deserve to be given a pass on anything.
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In 1961, the fathers race would not be listed as "african"
In 1961 the race wold be noted as "negro" , not "african".
That was the 1st and most glaring problem with the original document.
THis is also not the birth certificate we seek. The document we want to see is the actual birth certificate, not this thing. The document provided by JimTT is the same fraud document we saw in november. This is not the sought after record.
Nice try, but Sorry.
The real BC that is MIA contains much more information, including the hospital and doctor who delivered the baby.
Also regardless of any surface evidence, the fact that millions have been spent in the name of secrecy of records by this president is simply unprecedented.
This kind of stuff gives birth to conspiracy theories , for obvious reason.
Oh, all us paranoid birthers, we are evil for wanting this fraud messiah to be exposed for the pile of cat manure he and his administration really is.
Can you imagine if something like this was going on with Bush? LOL
CNN and other liberal media would have it front page for months, like micheal jacksons death.
In 1961 the race wold be noted as "negro" , not "african".
That was the 1st and most glaring problem with the original document.
THis is also not the birth certificate we seek. The document we want to see is the actual birth certificate, not this thing. The document provided by JimTT is the same fraud document we saw in november. This is not the sought after record.
Nice try, but Sorry.
The real BC that is MIA contains much more information, including the hospital and doctor who delivered the baby.
Also regardless of any surface evidence, the fact that millions have been spent in the name of secrecy of records by this president is simply unprecedented.
This kind of stuff gives birth to conspiracy theories , for obvious reason.
Oh, all us paranoid birthers, we are evil for wanting this fraud messiah to be exposed for the pile of cat manure he and his administration really is.
Can you imagine if something like this was going on with Bush? LOL
CNN and other liberal media would have it front page for months, like micheal jacksons death.
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"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by
legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person
receives without working for, another person must work for
without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody
anything that the government does not first take from
somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that
they do not have to work because the other half is going to
take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea
that it does no good to work because somebody else is going
to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the
end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing
it."
~~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931
legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person
receives without working for, another person must work for
without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody
anything that the government does not first take from
somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that
they do not have to work because the other half is going to
take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea
that it does no good to work because somebody else is going
to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the
end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing
it."
~~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931
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Ciruit -I don't give a **** what's on the BC! Let's talk about the real problems that is my point. The document I posted is not a fraud; just trying to get beyond this Nonsense. CNN and FOX are the same goddamn thing MAN.
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"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by
legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person
receives without working for BANKS, another person must work for
without receiving US The government cannot give to anybody
anything BANK and BIG INTERESTS that the government does not first take from
somebody else US. When half 5% of the people get the idea that
they do not have to work because the other half 95%is going to
take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea
that it does no good to work because somebody else is going
to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the
end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing WHATEVER
legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person
receives without working for BANKS, another person must work for
without receiving US The government cannot give to anybody
anything BANK and BIG INTERESTS that the government does not first take from
somebody else US. When half 5% of the people get the idea that
they do not have to work because the other half 95%is going to
take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea
that it does no good to work because somebody else is going
to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the
end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing WHATEVER
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Will you guys stop complicating things by bringing up the difficult to unravel issues of very big business and its murky control structures.
Since it takes more than a single document to understand how the Trilateral Commission/IMF/WTO controls monetary policy, let's instead focus on some inane or simple gainular issue, like the sematics of document types. Where is your sense of focus men? We need simple cut and dried issues to be pissed off about and distracted by.
Since it takes more than a single document to understand how the Trilateral Commission/IMF/WTO controls monetary policy, let's instead focus on some inane or simple gainular issue, like the sematics of document types. Where is your sense of focus men? We need simple cut and dried issues to be pissed off about and distracted by.
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I agree, this birth certificate issue is a waste of time.
And besides, even if he produced a long form certificate, it would still be disputed. The conspiracy theorists already have that covered:
http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/I...-we-speak.aspx
"Don't know about 9/11 conspiracy, but do know from DC source that an Administration team is working on perfecting a forgery of the long-form birth certificate. They plan on presenting it in a a month or so. The source is FBI agent who has drinking buddy from University of Illinois now in the Administration. Its second hand, but the source is supposed to be solid.
They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.
The blanks in the forged form were filled in with an old Underwood Manual typewriter bought at an estate sale in Skokie, IL. The raised seal was the easiest piece to fake, since you can by a special order corporate seal from just about any online office supply store.
The only reason they haven't rolled out the foregery yet is that it is "seasoning" under mild UV light and a back and forth rotation between between a humidifier and a sauna. Get ready....one to two months tops."
And besides, even if he produced a long form certificate, it would still be disputed. The conspiracy theorists already have that covered:
http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/I...-we-speak.aspx
"Don't know about 9/11 conspiracy, but do know from DC source that an Administration team is working on perfecting a forgery of the long-form birth certificate. They plan on presenting it in a a month or so. The source is FBI agent who has drinking buddy from University of Illinois now in the Administration. Its second hand, but the source is supposed to be solid.
They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.
The blanks in the forged form were filled in with an old Underwood Manual typewriter bought at an estate sale in Skokie, IL. The raised seal was the easiest piece to fake, since you can by a special order corporate seal from just about any online office supply store.
The only reason they haven't rolled out the foregery yet is that it is "seasoning" under mild UV light and a back and forth rotation between between a humidifier and a sauna. Get ready....one to two months tops."
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SuperSport
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For border enforcement, we simply need to watch the area with infrared satellites to automatically detect anything larger than a coyote, and send the trucks out with guns ablazin'.
They can put out some commercials in border-city tv networks, and after a few gruesome deaths make the news, it will deter others.
They can put out some commercials in border-city tv networks, and after a few gruesome deaths make the news, it will deter others.
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LOL
The BC isnt the crux of the argument anyway,
Its a particular focal point, something easy to identify with fraud.
And it is fraudulent. There will be much more of this, so if you cant take it, I suggest you refrain from even joining in such a discussion... because all the rest of us who are concerned about this **** are only going to get sick of hearing you Libs belly-aching and moaning like a cow giving birth.
We can sure see who voted for the Lib-tards cant we?
Aside from the fraudulent documents ("african"? - LOL)
There will be more low hanging fruit to harvest soon enough.
Bring on the forgeries, because no matter how good the mafia hood criminals get at forgery, there are many more experts who will quickly spot the errors. And of course they will get labeled "birthers" or some other inbred term... but none of the name calling or labeling is going to stop the march.
I really pity the weak stupidity of those who think this quest is mere folly.
There will come a time when you capitulate and "change" your position yet again, as you always do, and join sides with whatever side is greater in numbers.
see how primitive this behavior is? Its like wild birds or some other fickle and flaky animal who cant think beyond their little sensory sphere of understanding... and tend to flock with the group and move when the group moves, based on what they see directly next to them, instead of whats coming down the road.
You are the pure definition of "Follower".
The BC isnt the crux of the argument anyway,
Its a particular focal point, something easy to identify with fraud.
And it is fraudulent. There will be much more of this, so if you cant take it, I suggest you refrain from even joining in such a discussion... because all the rest of us who are concerned about this **** are only going to get sick of hearing you Libs belly-aching and moaning like a cow giving birth.
We can sure see who voted for the Lib-tards cant we?
Aside from the fraudulent documents ("african"? - LOL)
There will be more low hanging fruit to harvest soon enough.
Bring on the forgeries, because no matter how good the mafia hood criminals get at forgery, there are many more experts who will quickly spot the errors. And of course they will get labeled "birthers" or some other inbred term... but none of the name calling or labeling is going to stop the march.
I really pity the weak stupidity of those who think this quest is mere folly.
There will come a time when you capitulate and "change" your position yet again, as you always do, and join sides with whatever side is greater in numbers.
see how primitive this behavior is? Its like wild birds or some other fickle and flaky animal who cant think beyond their little sensory sphere of understanding... and tend to flock with the group and move when the group moves, based on what they see directly next to them, instead of whats coming down the road.
You are the pure definition of "Follower".
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Posts: 599
From: Grand Prairie , Texas
If you think there arent serious issues with the messiah in cheif, I am.
Im not politically divisive, just amazed at the spectral filtering liberals use to view the world thru.
It would be cool to be able to morph temporarily into a pure liberal. It would be like going to six flags or disney world for a day.
but if I became trapped, unable to get back to reality,
It would become a tragedy.
Im not politically divisive, just amazed at the spectral filtering liberals use to view the world thru.
It would be cool to be able to morph temporarily into a pure liberal. It would be like going to six flags or disney world for a day.
but if I became trapped, unable to get back to reality,
It would become a tragedy.
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