j shizzy wizzy

where's the plane? exactly. the "jet" that flew into that building would have left a yard sale of debris! a missile hit the pentagon.

Little_Horse

This is the same thing as did the gov know about Pearl Harbor before it happened. Very entertaining, but conspiracies are conspiracies because they can't be proven either way, doubt on both sides. I would be great to know for sure on some of these cons. though.

killer5280

Yeah, like I said, I have seen that hundreds of times. Not very convincing, especially since it was released about 5 years after 9/11. Why would they sit on the "proof" that a plane hit the Pentagon for that length of time?

The mystery of what hit the Pentagon is only one item among thousands of items in the official story that don't make sense.

This is an emotional topic, and I have been sufficiently convinced that the official story is crap for almost 5 years now. I didn't wake up one morning and decide to believe that our government could do this. In fact, like most people, I resisted believing that the government's story could be a lie. After examining many facets of the story, from the denials of prior knowledge by our government (a boldfaced lie), to the numerous wargames exercises being conducted the morning of 9/11 involving the EXACT SAME scenarios (planes being flown into buildings in lower Manhattan), to the free fall collapse of a building that was not hit by a plane (WTC 7), to the failure of NORAD to scramble fighter jets for more than an hour after the first plane hit the WTC, and these are just some of the highlights, I am convinced beyond a doubt that 9/11 did not happen in the manner we have been told by our government. Our government is not stupid nor incompetent as we are always led to believe in cases like this; our military can put a missile down your nostril and scramble a jet within minutes, so I don't buy the incompetence explanation for what happened on 9/11.

LineArrayNut

Pentagon is a pretty stout building. Airplanes are fragile shells of aluminum with a few hard bits and alot of fuel. Move it at ~500 mph into Limestone and brick and steel and concrete and steel reinforced concrete and add a hot fire and there is not much left. The fireball is just that - a fireball. Not a blast concussion wave that would be the result of a "missle".

killer5280

Then how did the perfectly circular hole occur in the Pentagon's C ring? I have seen photos of this hole, but never of the nosecone that would have had to have been pretty much intact to make the hole. They always just show the hole. If the plane disintegrated upon impact with the Pentagon's outer wall, I wonder how it made a nearly perfect round hole in the C ring. Just wondering.

The whole "video" is suspect, so I don't know if any conclusions can be drawn about a plane, a missile or a fireball. They had 5 years to manipulate it before "discovering" it.

j shizzy wizzy

the official story was the WHOLE plane melted to nothing! engines and all! do a little research on jet fuel burn off. there's no way that fire was hot enough to melt everything. plus there's only one hole for the fuselage, no scaring or individual holes at all for tons of steel and titanium making up an engine that is hung from each wing on that model. there should be two more punch marks for the engines. and theres no wing material at all in the pictures.

j shizzy wizzy

plus fuel storage on those planes are on the wings, not in the fuselage, look at that photo once more. the fire is coming from a central point. that jet fuel would had vaporized in a millisecond after slamming into the walls. the fire ball would have been 10x bigger than the photos suggest.

LineArrayNut

Frangible bullet is the same principle. Metal powder expends all the energy in the perp, not your walls, but not much left of it. Add the hot fire and...it did not melt the aircraft, it burned the aircraft. Aluminum burns fairly easily when shredded, pulverized, etc. Supposedly the wings sheared off at impact, he was pulling up pretty hard after a steep dive and barely skimmed the parking lot (chopped off lamp posts), might have been already coming off before impact. Fireball was swallowed up in the building, remember this one had flown for a while at high consumption rates (low/highspeed).