Everything Else Anything and everything NON-VTR related

Anyone as stupid as me ???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 09:23 AM
  #1  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
Anyone as stupid as me ???

Just wondering if someone did this also

last year i had a puncture a really tiny (2mm) puncture on my gsxr but that tyre
was nearly new and quite expensive (dragonsupercorsa)
so instead of buying a new rear tire i just put a bicycle repair patch on with rubber glue on the inside of the tyre and its complety leak free and safe because even when it leaks it stays hard for about a day
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 10:22 AM
  #2  
E.Marquez's Avatar
Administrator
MotoGP
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,402
From: Kempner, TX
E.Marquez is on a distinguished road
No

Just you

Old Dec 11, 2014 | 10:34 AM
  #3  
dirty_!'s Avatar
Member
Squid
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 50
From: Georgia, USA
dirty_! is on a distinguished road
Oh... my... word.
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 12:04 PM
  #4  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
its not like i am gonna try get as much miles out of it as possible
just a tyre to play around and very short trips to get some supplies and stuff at work
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 12:19 PM
  #5  
Wicky's Avatar
Senior Member
SuperBike
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,707
From: Essex, UK
Wicky is on a distinguished road
Why not get it professionally plugged and sealed at a tire shop. They'll do the repair if the puncture is not too far off the centre tread for about 10-20 euros.
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 12:40 PM
  #6  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
in my mind thats even worse, because the make the hole bigger right ?
and btw they dont do that anymore here because of the risks
ive read so much about guys with good things to say about those umbrella plugs (and vice versa) or something else, but what i did is to save money not spend it
not even gonna bother with balancing the tyre because it wont be long on their
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 01:42 PM
  #7  
Wolverine's Avatar
Moderator
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,213
From: Gettysburg, Pa
Wolverine is on a distinguished road
I put a plug in the sidewall of my truck tire. It's been there for about 6 months now & no problems yet!
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 01:48 PM
  #8  
E.Marquez's Avatar
Administrator
MotoGP
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,402
From: Kempner, TX
E.Marquez is on a distinguished road
To plug or not is an oil thread by another name.

Only one motorcycle tire manufacture has any recommendation other then outright forbidden. The one that does not state it that way, basically writes, do what you want but if it's damaged or you damage it by plugging your on your own.

Many have used plugs successfully , many have used plug patches successfully. I do on cars and trucks commonly, I don't on bikes unless it is to get home. Just a personal choice. If I was a rider who considered changing a tire a significant emotional event (time, money inconvenience) perhaps Id change my mind.

But for me, it's only happened a few times 38+ years of riding... and it's a 30 min job to put a new tire on in my garage...so just not a big deal.
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 01:49 PM
  #9  
dirty_!'s Avatar
Member
Squid
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 50
From: Georgia, USA
dirty_! is on a distinguished road
I had a friend explain to me that motorcycle maintenance is equivalent to airplane maintenance. I'm not sure how you ride there are times were a sudden loss of air pressure would endanger my life or the life of my passenger. I say saving a few $ could cost you thousands down the road. Plug it, get it replace as soon as possible. just my opinion.






and YES, we are all equally stupid
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 02:01 PM
  #10  
Wolverine's Avatar
Moderator
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,213
From: Gettysburg, Pa
Wolverine is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by E.Marquez
I do on cars and trucks commonly, I don't on bikes unless it is to get home. Just a personal choice.
Agree'd 100%. I wouldn't run a plug on the bike, an internal patch maybe. Have never been in the position to make the call. If it were a less than 500 mile tire, probably depending on the damage done. Personal call IMO.
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 02:27 PM
  #11  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Oh boy here we go.
1) As for sudden loss of air, that can happen every time you ride no matter how new your tire is or any other factor. The only way to avoid a flat is stay home.
2) You can for sure plug a tire. I have run plugs at ALL temps in all conditions for thousands of miles. That is 100% true. Any wacky stories otherwise I have heard were along the "my uncle once did this" lines. Fifth hand folklore.

The way you did it was not good. Those are super wimpy patches and even I would not do that.

If you went to the trouble of getting inside the tire you shoudla put a mushroom plug with glue, They have a sharp steel point to push them through then you cut off the excess. Yes it enlarges the hole slightly but its permanent and I have never seen one fail (yes everything can fail but so can a tire).

For what you have get a tire plug kit and plug it from the outside. (watch some utube vids if you don't know how. )

Another way to do it is with a full innertube but that causes a whole slew of other issues, mainly that you cant plug the next screwhole you get. (when not if)

A well installed self vulcanizing plug from an auto store will easily outlive the tire.

Carry on...
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 02:29 PM
  #12  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Oh and for the record I am much stupider than you, but I do know about tire plugs.
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 07:04 PM
  #13  
1971allchaos's Avatar
Senior Member
SuperSport
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 987
From: Asheville, North Carolina
1971allchaos is on a distinguished road
Being that car tires flex when you go around a curve.. Motorcycle ""FLEX"" when you go into a curve. Beside the FACT , that there is NO flat spots in a motorcycle , (like in a car tire) Pictured are umbrella plugs , that have been used..
Attached Thumbnails Anyone as stupid as me ???-images.jpg  
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 07:36 PM
  #14  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Yeah chaos, that's what I meant by mushroom plugs. Those are best but you cant always get the tire off so regular plugs are the quick choice.
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 07:42 PM
  #15  
rick's Avatar
Senior Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 236
From: Modesto, CA
rick is on a distinguished road
I'd plug and ride a tire till the treads wear out as long as the puncture is not near a edge.

I have experienced a sudden loss of air on the freeway on the front tire ( that did not have a plug.) Managed to slow to a stop on the shoulder. It was on a Hawk Gt; It being a light bike helped. Plugged that tire and rode it till the treads wore out.

I do not recommend anyone else plug/ no plug. You have to make that choice yourself. Most plug failures appears to be from improper installation. Some injuries simply cannot be plugged safely..
Old Dec 11, 2014 | 09:41 PM
  #16  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Oh yeah, cant stop this thread.

I had a tire blow coming off the Brooklyn bridge at 430am in 28*. Fortunately I slowed from 70 t0 60 and then hit a "pothole" about a foot deep. Broke the front wheel and of course blew the tire instantly.

I was thanking God I didn't crash and only had a dozen blocks to push the bike home. Although pushing a bike with a broken wheel and flat tire sure is a workout.
Old Dec 12, 2014 | 07:25 AM
  #17  
Jack Flash's Avatar
Well take off, eh.
SuperBike
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,206
From: QC, Canada
Jack Flash is on a distinguished road
As Joe has previously mentioned, use a plug, you'll be fine. I've plugged many tires back in the day, and have seen all my customers come back to replace their tires. Not because the plug failed, but because they were now due for fresh rubber.


What's stupid is not the plug. It's some of the folks on this forum that show pics of their tires worn all the way out to the steel braids. And they're proud of it....:O|
Old Dec 12, 2014 | 07:43 AM
  #18  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Haha Flash, I didn't even think of that. You are right. Even I wouldn't do that unless I was needed to get the antidote of a disease to the next town.
Old Dec 12, 2014 | 09:48 AM
  #19  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
like this jack flash
and yes this is my bike and tyre
and as punishment the braids cut the inside of my hands when changing tyre, ah well just use left

Last edited by RoadManiac; Dec 12, 2014 at 09:50 AM.
Old Dec 12, 2014 | 10:26 AM
  #20  
NZSpokes's Avatar
Senior Member
SuperSport
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 932
From: Auckland, new Zealand
NZSpokes is on a distinguished road
Next question, Who rides without sealed valve caps?
Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:26 PM
  #21  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Hey road maniac, it takes a very big person to own up to such foolish behavior. I cant imagine how unsafe that bike was or how bad it handled and I have ridden in 6 inches of snow.

I would recommend against doing that again. Its false economy. You have to ride smart enough to ride another day.
Old Dec 12, 2014 | 04:14 PM
  #22  
VTR1000F's Avatar
Thread Killer
SuperBike
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,093
From: Geneseo, IL
VTR1000F is on a distinguished road
True dat smokin "even I wouldn't do that" joe73.

RoadManiac, those are the worst chicken strips I've ever seen.
Old Dec 13, 2014 | 05:37 AM
  #23  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
did you guys think i just normally wear that tyre out to this ?
dat would be crazy, al that rubber is now on the street where i work
boss didnt like it that much but he was late yet again and that tyre had to go
Old Dec 13, 2014 | 08:24 AM
  #24  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Hmmm. Well it sounds like you are full of quality decisions. Did you flip him the bird as you did it?

And if you really wanted to help this thread you woulda done it with a few plugs in the tire.

Anyway. Not like we didn't expect it. I mean we can see your screen name right?

Just next time put some tape over the superhawk logo before you do such a stunt.
Old Dec 13, 2014 | 10:11 AM
  #25  
Killemall's Avatar
Senior Member
Superstock
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 342
From: CA, South of Heaven
Killemall is on a distinguished road
He was just trying to make the point that it's dumb wearing the tire down like that. Take a chill pill guys.
Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:14 PM
  #26  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
smokinjoe
you might have taken my comment a bit to seriously if youre one of those guys who frown up on burnouts and think their childish thats youre opinion
but my working relation with my boss is differant then you might have
he's about the same age as i and i helped built up the company and where always getting the blood under each other nails all of us because basicly where all equal and friends, but its his money in the company so he is my boss if you wil, and usually its work hard play hard but that morning it was play hard work hard
and my screen name yes, ive been on message boards since my scooter days and thats my name on many other forums so yeah i just stuck with it but i admit i live up to my name on occasion

Last edited by RoadManiac; Dec 13, 2014 at 02:18 PM.
Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:55 PM
  #27  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Maniac, I know its hard to tell in text form but I am kidding 99% of the time. I am actually glad you didn't ride the tire to that condition. I do think burnouts are dumb but I think most people and even most bikers do. (except drunken Harley guys at bike events).

Wheelies can be dumb too but at least are fun & not overtly offensive. Burnouts really do nothing but say F--- You to the world in general so are just bad for motorcycling in general.

Not mad about it. Just my opinion.
Old Dec 13, 2014 | 03:14 PM
  #28  
VTR1000F's Avatar
Thread Killer
SuperBike
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,093
From: Geneseo, IL
VTR1000F is on a distinguished road
I was serious.
Old Dec 14, 2014 | 02:02 PM
  #29  
RoadManiac's Avatar
Thread Starter
European Member
Back Marker
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 194
From: Netherlands
RoadManiac is on a distinguished road
BTW Smokinjoe based on your screen name you would love to do burnouts

or are you smoking diffirent things ?? like we do here in Holland

and if you can flip somebody off while doing a burnout.... respect for him
Old Dec 14, 2014 | 04:25 PM
  #30  
smokinjoe73's Avatar
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,066
From: NYC
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Yes maniac, very clever. Shockingly I've heard that one. It was more from the smokinjoe's Honda racing team and that I had the cbr600 so wore a lot of the stuff. Then started customizing my leathers with smokinjoe as well as all my bikes.

Oh and I guess because my name really is Joe it all fit so nicely. I don't actually smoke anything but the competition hopefully, but not always.

Didn't make sense to have a slow sounding nickname.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:45 AM.


Top

© 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands



When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.