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spekbikes 04-26-2007 10:30 AM

VTR carb diagrams
 
Hey I have a 2000 Vtr 1000 That is being put on a go kart, Im just starting to set up the exhaust, fuel.. etc I need to know what the fuel pressure was factory? also If anyone has Carb hose Diagrams, Or Electrical diagrams that would be Greatly Appreciated, As I cannot find them anywhre.

Thanks

Steve

Hawkrider 04-26-2007 10:37 AM

P = pgh, where P=pressure, p=density of gasoline, g=gravitational constant, and h=height of column.

















In other words there is no pump. It gravity feeds from the tank. :mrgreen:

spekbikes 04-26-2007 10:41 AM

Alright, So the Next question, Because I have to now put the fuel tank Lower then the carbs, can i put on a fuel pump.. Regulate it down to say 1 psi? Or is it going to Flood the hell out?

SH1000MA 04-26-2007 10:41 AM

thats going to be one sick go-kart

Tweety 04-29-2007 09:27 AM

A VTR engine in a go-cart??? You're nut's... completely nut's... But in a decidedly good way...:D

Can I come over and play!?

Seriously though, a low power fuel pump should work, start low and find the sweet spot...

I'm sure there are alot of other variables involved but you could probably look at the fuel pressure on the SP-1 for a genereal idea of the pressure... it should prbably be a bit lower that that thoo...

Hawkrider 04-29-2007 10:34 AM

No, SP-1 is fuel injected. Regulating to 1 or 2 psi will work. Just make sure you have good float valves (they are cheap to replace) and that you have enough pressure that you don't go lean under high rpm/high load situations.

spekbikes 04-29-2007 10:52 AM

Alright thanks guys, the pump im using is kinda abit over kill, i went 11.40s with it in my car, so it should support my go kart!! Ill post some pictures of the buildup.
FYI: i plan on going over 100mph in the 1/4 with this kart. This is a just for kicks project.

Hawkrider 04-29-2007 10:53 AM

Too much pressure could cause the float valves to leak by. Be careful.

spekbikes 04-29-2007 05:54 PM

Hey A new question here! im tryin to eliminate everything i can to simplify it!! Now why do i need to have my coolant run through my carbs? all that is doing is bringing my carbs upto temperature faster correct?
cuz if it is, Thats exackly what i dont want. (hot fuel)

JamieDaugherty 04-29-2007 06:30 PM

The thermostat will shut off the coolant flow before the engine reaches full operating pressure. Don't worry, Honda would not heat the carbs all of the time. They aren't Suzuki after all.

Try using a pump from an 80's Honda Civic, one that is carburated. They run about 2psi and would work perfectly. I wouldn't put your big daddy pump on there as it will only cause you problems. This is a high tech motorcycle engine and does not suck down fuel like a V8 car engine would.

Hawkrider 04-29-2007 11:49 PM

Jamie,

I thought we went through this before? Didn't we decide that since the supply line to the carb heating comes from the bottom of the thermostat housing (which also has coolant coming from the motor) then the carb heating is always on. The thermostat being open or closed does not turn carb heating on or off. The thermostat is either open or closed. It's not a three-way valve.

Hawkrider 04-30-2007 12:01 AM

This is the way I understand it as the engine is cool before the thermostat opens:

http://ghlbo.superhawkforum.com/VTRcool.JPG

...and when it's hot:

http://ghlbo.superhawkforum.com/VTRhot.JPG

Hawkrider 04-30-2007 12:05 AM

Nevertheless, I really don't think you'll need carb heating for the go-cart.

spekbikes 04-30-2007 09:01 AM

Yeah, i would prefer to have it off but i wasnt sure if it was needed for some reason so i just wanted to doublecheck!
Thanks again
Also, this go kart is not going to be driven for long periods of time, or long idle periods, do you think i could get away with running just one of the rads. with the fan wired permanently on? Or do these engines run pretty hot?

Hawkrider 04-30-2007 10:08 AM

Yes, that should be fine too. You'll know if it starts to overheat.


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