Sudden change: backfire and low idle
Took the bike out yesterday, fairly warm so I put the choke back in after just a mile or so. The idle went down to about 500 but didn't die on me. So I pulled the choke back out to get about 1000 RPMs. After the temp needle started going up, I put the choke back in but I was still only getting about 600 RPMs. The bike was also backfiring something fierce on deceleration. I usually have some burbling but these were sharp loud explosions out the muffler. I recently did 8541Hawk's carb mods (filled the slide holes from the Dynajet kit and richened the needle on the rear carb) after which I did a carb sync. I also installed an air filter for a car in place of the K&N. The bike ran better than it ever has. I tried richening the pilots jets, but that didn't do anything productive. Any thoughts of what to look for when I pull things apart? Acceleration is good though I haven't wound it up past 5500 or so.
Thanks, Greg |
I'd say that you have richened the mixture plenty, based on the decel backfire. Maybe the pilots need more adjusting to get the idle right.
You shouldn't need the choke for a mile this time of year |
if it was running good and then did this, check everything over because something came off, loose, etc. Set your TPS to 500 if you haven't and re-sync the carbs. These things are finicky and a little adjustment can raise holy hell. Also, i assume you set the fuel screws at the carb bottoms.
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I assume you cleaned the carbs while working on them, including removing and soaking the pilot jets.
About a year and a half ago, my bike dropped a cylinder 1/2 way through a ride. Limping almost 20 miles to get back home, I was shooting ducks out the exhaust... sounded like a shotgun, must have scared the crap out of a few motorists. It turned out that the pilot jet in the rear carb was completely plugged. I had to soak it in Berryman's B12 carb spray for 1/2 hour to dissolve the crap in there. I since changed to 48 pilots. |
I kind of have the same story, recently did 48s and the slide hole fill and some screw adjustment, mine has more exhaust popping like the OP, probably because its rich. but why would I still have carb farts when I run into colder weather?
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Sure you didn't get some crappy gas?
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Originally Posted by xeris
(Post 308636)
I'd say that you have richened the mixture plenty, based on the decel backfire.
Originally Posted by xeris
(Post 308636)
Maybe the pilots need more adjusting to get the idle right.
You shouldn't need the choke for a mile this time of year |
Originally Posted by nath981
(Post 308639)
if it was running good and then did this, check everything over because something came off, loose, etc.
Originally Posted by nath981
(Post 308639)
Set your TPS to 500 if you haven't and re-sync the carbs. These things are finicky and a little adjustment can raise holy hell.
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Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
(Post 308640)
I assume you cleaned the carbs while working on them, including removing and soaking the pilot jets.
Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
(Post 308640)
About a year and a half ago, my bike dropped a cylinder 1/2 way through a ride. Limping almost 20 miles to get back home, I was shooting ducks out the exhaust... sounded like a shotgun, must have scared the crap out of a few motorists.
Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
(Post 308640)
It turned out that the pilot jet in the rear carb was completely plugged. I had to soak it in Berryman's B12 carb spray for 1/2 hour to dissolve the crap in there.
I'll take the jets out and give them a cleaning. One thing I remembered today was the last time I took the carbs off, there were small black specks in the gas that was in the fuel line. I think I'll order some new fuel lines, they might be disintegrating on the inside. Thanks, I'll let everyone know what I find over the next few days or so. |
Originally Posted by Thumper
(Post 308662)
Sure you didn't get some crappy gas?
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+1 on replacing the fuel lines, and check the tank for contamination as well.
I suspect I got some bad gas on a trip my wife and I made up to Santa Barbara. We rode the 33 east from Ojai, and I had to gas up at the Pistachio Farm, which has an above ground tank. My bike started misfiring, only very intermittently, on the way back home the next day. That was the start of my pilots clogging up, I suspect. Just a heads up, if you ever ride up that way. With our limited range, the Pistachio Farm is the only option for gas that far out on the 33. |
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I got the airbox off and noticed something out of the corner of my eye as I was getting ready to pull the carbs. As the saying goes "Well there's yer problem" At least I think that is the problem. When I did the carb sync the other day, the old vacuum line plugs were starting to crack so I replaced them with some that I had in the garage. The rubber on those was getting a little hard so one just slipped off. Bought some fresh plugs and spring clamps today and everything is back together. Tomorrow, I'll get her warmed up and readjust the idle and see where I stand.
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...vacuumplug-jpg |
ha ha! like you said, "fairly methodical", the key word being "fairly". Easy to do, huh.
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Originally Posted by nath981
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ha ha! like you said, "fairly methodical", the key word being "fairly". Easy to do, huh.
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I had a similar problem the solution was here
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