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Gregw 05-05-2011 11:08 AM

Couple Q's about CBR 1000 forks
 
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I have a leaky seal on one of my '04 forks. First question is which way does the seal face. The current one has the spring side facing down (when fork is one the bike).
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...5&d=1304618795
The second question is what am I missing when I try to loosen the socket bolt from the bottom of the fork to remove the damper. What is happening is the damper is spinning with the bolt. Holding the damper rod at the top doesn't help because it rotates also. There are two holes in the fork tube. Should something go in there to keep the damper from rotating while I loosen the socket bolt? Didn't want to jam a screwdriver in there haphazardly.;)

Slightly off topic. I made a tool to help remove the fork bolt and lock nut. Seems like this procedure needs 3 hands. I alas, only have two. It is a foot lever that goes into the two holes in the plastic spacer. Using my foot, I can compress the spring to get a wrench on the fork damper while pulling up on the fork bolt. Using two wrenches on the top to loosen the locknut had me stripping the aluminum threads.:mad:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...6&d=1304618808

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...7&d=1304618820

8541Hawk 05-05-2011 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Gregw (Post 301672)
The second question is what am I missing when I try to loosen the socket bolt from the bottom of the fork to remove the damper. What is happening is the damper is spinning with the bolt. Holding the damper rod at the top doesn't help because it rotates also. There are two holes in the fork tube. Should something go in there to keep the damper from rotating while I loosen the socket bolt? Didn't want to jam a screwdriver in there haphazardly.;)


Screw the cap back on the fork and the spring tension should hold it in place while you break the bolt loose.

Gregw 05-05-2011 12:20 PM

Thanks, I'll give that a shot.

Gregw 05-05-2011 12:45 PM

No joy. Even compressing the fork with a ratchet strap, the bolt still spins.

8541Hawk 05-05-2011 12:48 PM

Have you tried an impact gun?

Gregw 05-05-2011 01:30 PM

Yeah, I have a cordless dawalt impact. Unfortunately there isn't enough resistance from the bolt to engage the impact, it just spins freely

JamieDaugherty 05-07-2011 06:57 AM

At this point I just drill out the bolt. It might be possible to remove what you have, but since time is money it's cheaper to just install a new bolt.

On a side note: you should leave the entire cartridge together until it's out of the fork. It's actually easier. It needs to be that way for reassembly anyway.

Gregw 05-07-2011 07:50 AM

I was thinking that would be my next step. Haven't been able to get to it yet, had a computer crash I had to take care of. I hate Norton (not the bike). I dumped their software years ago, but there was over 100 entries in the registry I tried to remove. That didn't work out so well.

Gregw 05-07-2011 07:53 AM

Anyone have an answer on the seal? I thought I had it in correctly, but the thing started leaking after just a couple hundred miles.
Thanks.

grnell 05-07-2011 10:57 AM

Your seal is oriented correctly in the picture, I had a similar problem w/ Race Tech seals went back to honda parts w/ no issues. I also have had problems getting the cartridge bolt out, Once I drilled it out and on the other fork I made a cartridge holding tool out of some pipe and notched it to fit in the top of the cartridge. Race Tech and Motion Pro offer them, not terribly difficult to make you own.

Tweety 05-07-2011 11:48 AM

The seal will notoriously leak regardless of manufacturer if there is a some crud caught in it... A thin, not sharp plastic sheet is a perfect cleaner... A lot of the times that fixes the leak...

D VTR RIDER 05-07-2011 12:26 PM

Re-tighten the bolt and use an impact to loosen. Try it over and over again and it should release. I had the same problem doing my 954.

Gregw 05-07-2011 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 301944)
A thin, not sharp plastic sheet is a perfect cleaner... A lot of the times that fixes the leak...

I've tried that trick a couple times, but the leak would come back. So bad recently it left a small puddle on the garage floor.

Gregw 05-07-2011 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by grnell (Post 301937)
Your seal is oriented correctly in the picture, I had a similar problem w/ Race Tech seals went back to honda parts w/ no issues.

Thanks for the clarification. These were Honda seals BTW.

Gregw 05-07-2011 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by D VTR RIDER (Post 301945)
Re-tighten the bolt and use an impact to loosen. Try it over and over again and it should release.

Thanks, I'll give that a whirl before drilling.

JamieDaugherty 05-08-2011 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by grnell (Post 301937)
I had a similar problem w/ Race Tech seals went back to honda parts w/ no issues..

That's funny, because RT seals are Honda parts!

Gregw 05-10-2011 10:44 PM

I tried to tighten the bolt back up but it just wasn't happening. I even put the spring and fork bolt on, then compressed the fork with a ratchet strap. A check with a drill bit showed that the bolt would just spin also. Finally took the fork to the Honda dealer and they had the tool grnell spoke of. Just a couple minutes and the job was done. They didn't even charge me.
Thanks everyone for the tips.

evines 05-11-2011 06:22 AM

Did you ever get the leak figured out? I'm curious if it was just a bad seal or if something else was going on.

Gregw 05-11-2011 09:04 AM

I'm going to put it back together today hopefully. I found a small rust pit right where the seal normally rides, so I'll try to smooth that down first. I checked the tube for straightness and it is almost perfect. Only time will tell I think.

evines 05-11-2011 09:45 AM

Thanks. I've been thinking about digging into my forks this fall, but I'm a little scared to do it myself. These pics and thread help.


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