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roadrun_fr 08-06-2005 05:43 AM

airbox, where does it breath ???
 
How does a VTR breath with a snorkel without any hole down ?
Does the VTR takes warm air thats flows between the engine and airbox ?

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/roadrun/Moto/VTR/airbox.jpg

Is this a normal configuration ?

99Hawkboy 08-06-2005 09:07 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 
Yeah its a normal configuration...believe it or not.

I guess the developers at honda discovered something that we dont quite know. And I think that was those 2 huge carbs sitting underneath the air box require a shit load of fuel to make the hawk run the way she does, so why give it any more air when all that would have to happen is to give it more fuel.

Shit...stock settings on the hawk are only good for 130 miles a tank. can you imagine what mileage would be if they developed ram air induction for the hawk?

What honda needs to do is develop the fuel injection for the bike finally! Move towards the light honda!

Gerrit 08-07-2005 09:27 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 
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Originally Posted by roadrun_fr";p=&quot (Post 8892)
How does a VTR breath with a snorkel without any hole down ?
Does the VTR takes warm air thats flows between the engine and airbox ?

Is this a normal configuration ?

I have removed al little peace of plastic, place is showen on pic (was attached with 1 screw)
You should try it, I find it rides smoother whitout.

Riccardo 08-07-2005 02:48 PM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 

Originally Posted by Gerrit";p=&quot (Post 8958)
I have removed al little peace of plastic, place is showen on pic (was attached with 1 screw)
You should try it, I find it rides smoother whitout.

I removed the same piece and also the one on the right side (this one is crossed by throttle cables).
I think that without this two pieces the engine can breath cooler air only with a little bit more of noise.
Ciao

roadrun_fr 08-07-2005 02:54 PM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 
It makes sense breathing cooler air but why honda techs decided to not open these plastics ?
venturi effect ?
how do you remove the right piece ?

Riccardo 08-08-2005 05:48 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 

Originally Posted by roadrun_fr";p=&quot (Post 8975)
It makes sense breathing cooler air but why honda techs decided to not open these plastics ?
venturi effect ?

I think that those plastics are usefull to low down induction noise and to avoid that dirt can enter the airbox.


how do you remove the right piece ?
I don't remember exactly, but I think that it was as easy to remove as the left one.
Ciao

inderocker 08-08-2005 08:44 AM

i imagine they help keep water out as well...

roadrun_fr 08-09-2005 01:25 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 
Seems that some australian models has a different configuration.... no plastic plate under the snorkel ...

Could you please tell me your configuration with your Year/Country model ?

roadrun_fr 08-10-2005 12:54 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 
have got an email from a canadian guy... He removed the two pieces but he replaced them because the performance was worse.
He tells me that these plastics are 'Heat Guard' that prevents to suck warm air !
Which is just the opposite we thought before ....

Riccardo 08-10-2005 05:50 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 

Originally Posted by roadrun_fr";p=&quot (Post 9106)
have got an email from a canadian guy... He removed the two pieces but he replaced them because the performance was worse.
He tells me that these plastics are 'Heat Guard' that prevents to suck warm air !
Which is just the opposite we thought before ....

It seems very very strange!!!! Quite impossible!!!
I can't see any way from wich hot air can enter the way opened by absent plastics. Probably a little bit of warm air could be sucked at very low speed or at stationary bike, but in motion I think it's impossible.
My VTR runs fine without those plastics.
Ciao

roadrun_fr 08-10-2005 06:14 AM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 
Maybe it helps not to suck warm air at idle or low speeds (engine stalls ?)
Note that Honda part's name is "Heat guard" ....

Riccardo 08-10-2005 02:54 PM

Re: airbox, where does it breath ???
 

Maybe it helps not to suck warm air at idle or low speeds (engine stalls ?)
I haven't noticed any worsening in engine stalls after the removal of the plastics.


Note that Honda part's name is "Heat guard" ....
Well....let's draw a curtain over Honda's translations!! ;-)
Ciao


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