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geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 11:47 AM

03-24-11 The Road to Recovery
 
Original post on my blog
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...18/#post296820

So after fixing my cars alternator problem I finally had a moment to inspect my Bike. I took of the cowl and documented what I saw.

The first thing I need help (and ya'lls help is appreciated) with is building a parts list. Below are all the pictures I snapped. Are there any other tests I should run? It looks like I am going to need a complete wiring harness R/R and what else?

This is the hole that made it through my fairing.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140223.jpg

Voltage measured at the battery

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_135400.jpg

My Battery

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_135701.jpg

Main Fuse 1

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140516.jpg

Main Fuse 2

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140555.jpg


R/R and wiring 1

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140239.jpg

R/R and wiring 2

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140247.jpg

R/R and wiring 3

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140255.jpg


R/R and wiring 4

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140832.jpg

R/R and wiring 5

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_140838.jpg


R/R and Wiring 6

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_141234.jpg


R/R and Wiring 7 - Close up of the wiring on the R/R


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_141246.jpg


ECU ? - is this in the right place?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_141049.jpg

Unknown box 1 - What is this?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_141055.jpg

Unknown box 2 - What is this box? It seems like it does not belong

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_141101.jpg

Unknown box 3 - The connector going into the box

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_C...324_141107.jpg

revhead1957 03-24-2011 01:16 PM

The service manual in the knowledge base section will give you the answers to all the above. Suggest you download it and have a read, it will show positions and descriptions of all the boxes in the pics.

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 01:20 PM

Ok, I have it. I found a place an hour away nearby that has the relay and harness for about 160 total. they are open 9-3 though and its too late. gonna get up extra early tomorrow and head up there to get em. I might be running tomorrow. I may pick up an r1 RR what is the best model to get? also what adapters do I need to make to get her to fit?

Tweety 03-24-2011 01:25 PM

Rule No.1 in electronics... Bundles of wiring is a bad, bad, baaad thing...

To me that looks like a classic R/R failure... Take R/R (tyristor based) with connectors on wires... Splice in wiring, but isolate them a bit haphasardly and fail to make sure they are protected from moisture... Leave it long enough to get corrosion and resistance build up... You get enough heat to make the isolation burn through and you have a wire roasting party... ;)

I fail to see why you need a new wiring harness? The only things that are toast are wires the you easily can cut away and replace when you attach the R1 R/R... You still need to start cutting in those same wires on the "new" harness...

Just keep in mind, "electricians tape" isn't really used by electricians (or at least very rarely)... Only dofuses use that... Make a clean cut, solder and use shrink tube to isolate and seal things... That way you won't have this problem again...

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 296827)
Rule No.1 in electronics... Bundles of wiring is a bad, bad, baaad thing...

To me that looks like a classic R/R failure... Take R/R (tyristor based) with connectors on wires... Splice in wiring, but isolate them a bit haphasardly and fail to make sure they are protected from moisture... Leave it long enough to get corrosion and resistance build up... You get enough heat to make the isolation burn through and you have a wire roasting party... ;)

Extra toasty!

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 01:57 PM

So I am going to need to repaint the bike anyways to match the tail cowl. I am partial to pearl white with red accents. or black with red. Is there any way to mock up what that would look like? any software? I think either would really pop with the polished frame.

7moore7 03-24-2011 02:07 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 26300

Best free image editing software is Gimp- basically a free version of Photoshop...

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by 7moore7 (Post 296831)
http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad22/7moore7/7.jpg

Best free image editing software is Gimp- basically a free version of Photoshop...

Damn 7more7 That is pretty much what I was thinking of! That bikes pipes are just like mine too. I use gimp to make my images but am not sure how to use it to change the bikes color.

7moore7 03-24-2011 02:13 PM

I did that for a member a couple of months back... not sure if he went with it or not. I may make a "how to" for changing a bike's color and adding graphics using Gimp when I get some free time...

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by 7moore7 (Post 296833)
I did that for a member a couple of months back... not sure if he went with it or not. I may make a "how to" for changing a bike's color and adding graphics using Gimp when I get some free time...

That would be super useful and a great contribution. I couldnt even tell I thought that was a real bike paint scheme.

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 02:18 PM

I have noticed some people have the cover over the rear wheel. Where do I get that? its not stock right?

t99ford 03-24-2011 09:32 PM

Just FYI, three stage pearl paint is VERY expensive (especially when compared to the R/R repair). I paid more for the paint raw materials on mine than you got paid from your insurance...

...but...pearl paint does look freakin cool....and is pretty worth it!

geekonamotorcycle 03-24-2011 09:33 PM

haha honey we are going eggshell white then

7moore7 03-24-2011 09:54 PM

Geek- rear fender is called a tire hugger

Ford- dag yo! You didn't even have that much real estate to paint for that kind of cost!

geekonamotorcycle 04-01-2011 10:40 PM

Ok got the brake light working by adjusting the rear brake switch and adding a spacer to my not stock right brake lever(a pice of double sided tape and a spare nut). The right lever was not making contact with the switch and was leaving my brakes turned up all the way.they are working now.
I ordered the d2moto integrated tail led so I can eliminate the non working rear signals.

I need to add connectors to the harness side for my left front running/blinker. I also need to figure out which wire does what and goes where for the front and rear blinkers.

ABS bodywork SuperHawk Firestorm VTR1000F 97 98 99 00 A - eBay (item 270726626423 end time Apr-26-11 10:20:06 PDT)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ABS-b...ht_4927wt_1172

anybody tried out those plastics?

98VTRrider 04-02-2011 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by geekonamotorcycle (Post 296830)
So I am going to need to repaint the bike anyways to match the tail cowl. I am partial to pearl white with red accents. or black with red. Is there any way to mock up what that would look like? any software? I think either would really pop with the polished frame.

I'm all for a nice paint job, but I think focusing all your effort on getting your bike running again first would be time better spent, at least until you know it runs again.


Originally Posted by geekonamotorcycle (Post 297591)
Ok got the brake light working by adjusting the rear brake switch and adding a spacer to my not stock right brake lever(a pice of double sided tape and a spare nut). The right lever was not making contact with the switch and was leaving my brakes turned up all the way.they are working now.

I'm not quite sure what's going on with your brakes from that quote, whether it was just a lighting issue or another problem causing you to have your brakes "turned up all the way", I wouldn't want to be trusting my brakes/my life to a spare nut taped to a non OEM lever. In the event of an emergency stop if that nut comes loose and falls out things could turn out badly if you grab for the brake and don't have the expected results.

Check that shop you are going to if they have a lever, it would really be a good idea to get the right lever in there.

saige 04-02-2011 08:19 AM

geek,if you need a lever,i can get one for around 22.00 or so for the bike.brand new
as far as the wiring for turn signals,i can come over and we could match up from mine.

geekonamotorcycle 04-02-2011 08:53 AM

Im sorry I was half drunk when I wrote that.

the bike runs!

I thought that my brakes lights were not working and only the tail running light was on. Turns out that the brake lights were on all the time. This was because the brake lever is not stock and was not closing the switch. Because of this the circuit was always open. I inserted a very small nut and some double sided tape so now the circuit is closed when the lever is not being pulled on. The result is that the running lights and brake lights work. So hooray! Also I replaced some blown fuses and now I have a horn.

I ordered an integrated tail light and will remove the turn signals in the back when it arrives. I do need to find out how each of the three wires on the indicators up front need to be connected.

I have a new pressing problem though.

Over the last few days I noticed a new sound from my exhaust. Also a very strong exhaust smell all over me. It turns out that I am leaking a significant amount of exhaust gas from somewhere behind my rear shock. I can feel it blowing with my hand when I put it back there. I reek of exhaust! I like to say tho that it is like the smell of sex, but with a bike. anyways I will take a video at my 3 o'clock lunch brake so you can see what I mean. If I stand behind my bike while its running and stick my hands near the mufflers the left one blows out hot air and the right one blows much cooler air with less force. There is also some leakage from the exhaust joints beneath the engine. If you recall from my first post with the petcock problems these are the joints where fuel/oil were leaking from.

Xtreme Powersports' 2000 Honda Street Bike VTR1000F SUPER HAWK Parts List

If I had to guess I would say that I need to replace all the #6 on that part list. also I think the big leak is from the joint of #10 and #1. also the joint of #1 and #3 seem to be leaking.

any advise on removing the exhaust system?
should I buy every gasket on the list and replace them all?
Do I need to warm up the system before removing it?
Will this require allot of force?
should I remove the fairings

I do have a swingarm stand now so life should be easier, I know that swapping out the wiring harness was much easier with the stand.

geekonamotorcycle 04-02-2011 12:36 PM

Ok here is the video
YouTube - 04-02-11 the smell of exhaust is like the smell of sex, but with a bike.

and some pics

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_135410.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_135416.jpg


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_135426.jpg


It was mentioned on another forum that these bolts and clamps may not be correct. Also the welds may be wrong. Do the clamps look out of place?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_152105.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_152201.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_152143.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_152220.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_152056.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...402_152230.jpg

geekonamotorcycle 04-02-2011 02:53 PM

Here is a video of the pics from the harness removal
YouTube - 04-02-11 Exia's Wiring harness repair

7moore7 04-02-2011 03:37 PM

Pretty sure the welds are all correct

Looks like everything else may be off though- Starting with that last pic. I'm pretty sure the flange on the section of the pipe (the part that the clamp is around) is supposed to be up further- so that it covers that ring that's around the header. The ring kind of acts as a stop for the exhaust gasket.

Next pics- My exhaust has these flanges on both mid-pipes as well- looks like yours doesn't but I would guess that it would be better if they were pulled up to the rings as well. This may not be an issue at all though,

Lastly- that fourth pic from the bottom- is that a big crack in your exhaust that I see?

geekonamotorcycle 04-02-2011 03:40 PM

I am not sure if it is a crack or a poorly done joint. probably a crack considering everything else. are there any pictures of what all this should look like?

7moore7 04-02-2011 03:44 PM

Mine's all under exhaust wrap and off the bike, so hard to take good pics. Everything's in the right spot, just replace the parts that you were mentioning in the other thread, and when you install, push those two sections of pipe in the rear exhaust header up so that the flange covers the stopper ring.


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