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trinc 05-01-2007 08:13 AM

motoczys c1
 
i've been following the building of the C1. Michael lives in portland and his studio is about a mile from my house. he's a really nice guy & has had an open house to view the bike & has spoken to our motogroup about the bike and his philosophy of building it.

i was happy to see his motorhome pull in at the motocorsa trackday event yesterday. ( still have trackday grin :lol: )

i've heard a lot of bikes but NOTHING sounds like this bike ( and it's GP loud :cool: ) !

anyway here is a couple of pix:

http://www.pacifier.com/~trinc/images/c1_1.jpg

http://www.pacifier.com/~trinc/images/c1_2.jpg

http://www.pacifier.com/~trinc/images/c1_3.jpg

this is version 2, i have a bunch of v1 pics i can post if people are interested.

tim

Brian A 05-01-2007 08:14 AM

I have been casually keeping up with him and his adventure for some time.
Tons of respect and admiration for the guy.

I got to see it at Laguna Seca in '05 and have a big poster of it hanging in my garage now.

I hope he has at least some measure of success.

Thanks for the pics.

drew_c14 05-01-2007 08:18 AM

That swingarm suspension is crazy. Is it on both sides or just the right? Do you have anymore pics from the other side?

trinc 05-01-2007 08:39 AM

heres the web site

http://www.motoczysz.com/

drew_c14 05-01-2007 08:42 AM

Thanks!

Brian A 05-01-2007 08:52 AM

Cool video.
I really like Freddie Spencer. Nice to see him there.

Also, the wind tunnel pic makes a sweet desk top background ;)

RickB 05-01-2007 12:59 PM

Thats a pretty cool looking machine! :drool:

PJay 05-01-2007 03:23 PM

So what does it go like?

captainchaos 05-01-2007 08:29 PM

Why doesn't my bike look like that? Well shit I could have had those wheels used for $3500 off ebay...

autoteach 05-03-2007 08:45 AM

Most importantly, what are the specs????? I want to know. V-twin going 14k rpm- mmmmmmmm. And it sounds wicked.

trinc 05-04-2007 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by autoteach (Post 51367)
Most importantly, what are the specs????? I want to know. V-twin going 14k rpm- mmmmmmmm. And it sounds wicked.

it's not a v-twin, it's a counter rotating 4.

tim

autoteach 05-04-2007 10:24 AM

Yeah, I looked a little further and found that out. It sounds brutal, though. They must have a big bang firing order or something. The compression sounds wicked, and the whole setup is just unreal. I want to see more/know more:x

Edwards07 07-24-2007 11:44 PM

I wonder what will happen to his project now considering MotoGP went to 800cc. I really wanted to see his machine run in moto GP, but i pray that his efforts won't go to waste and there will be some more news on it soon. It's a bitchin' bike though.

killer5280 07-25-2007 01:06 AM

The chain's on the wrong side. It won't work.

trinc 07-26-2007 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Edwards07 (Post 62484)
I wonder what will happen to his project now considering MotoGP went to 800cc. I really wanted to see his machine run in moto GP, but i pray that his efforts won't go to waste and there will be some more news on it soon. It's a bitchin' bike though.


it will most likely run in superbike.

in hearing him speak pre & post rule change ( and maybe just as the project has moved forward ) the 'motoGP' word has been dropped. they are working hard now on getting the bike done and ready for sale.


tim

Utah996 07-27-2007 09:24 AM

I have pics of the bike in pieces from the AMA races at Miller Motorsports Park...I will have to download them. Its an awesome bike!

Scooberhawk 07-29-2007 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by trinc (Post 51512)
it's not a v-twin, it's a counter rotating 4.

tim

The bike in the picture in the first post is? I gotta get a look at that motor. It's a two-stroke right? Scary..

Edwards07 07-29-2007 08:47 PM

Nope, like he said, it's a counter-rotating inline four. It's a four-stroke big-bang motor. It's one of the sexiest bikes i've ever seen. But i don't see how it could be in the superbike class because that class limits bikes to production bikes, right? I just don't understand why they don't just mill the cyclinders down and recreate another crankshaft to make it an 800cc engine. I really want to see this project succeed in the Moto GP.

trinc 08-02-2007 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Edwards07 (Post 63583)
Nope, like he said, it's a counter-rotating inline four. It's a four-stroke big-bang motor. It's one of the sexiest bikes i've ever seen. But i don't see how it could be in the superbike class because that class limits bikes to production bikes, right? I just don't understand why they don't just mill the cyclinders down and recreate another crankshaft to make it an 800cc engine. I really want to see this project succeed in the Moto GP.

once completed he will sell the required 500 to run superbike (imo).

i too would like to see it in the premier class but thats a lot of $$$. maybe if he gets more funding? i'll ask him about 800cc the next time i see him.

tim

Edwards07 08-02-2007 11:58 AM

Is he still riding it atleast? Maybe some trackdays? There's always testing to be had!

Sgt Rock 08-24-2007 06:04 PM

Damm that was a nice bike, video was great too

futurehawk 08-29-2007 05:41 AM

Michael Czysz is trying to sell the required production run at $100K/copy. I sure hope it works. He's got former Cosworth engine guys and Ohlins, Inc working for/with hm. This bike reminds me how much has been lost in motorcycling because big corporations made it so hard for innovative people to compete in the marketplace. 15 degree V4, Cylinders 1 and 3 inline, also 2 and 4. Three cams, middle one (intake) full length and driving both shorter exhaust cams. Man, this bike is SWEET!

superbling 08-29-2007 07:04 AM

Why are you blaming the manufacturers? They are contesting an AMA streetbike based series because what wins on sunday sells on monday. There are unlimited series the cyszy can race in with just their prototype. I think the AMA requirement is 50 streetbikes not 500 but still, at 100K/copy PLUS EPA certification, I think this is a pipe dream without major funding.

I think Micheal is a great dreamer, designer, and engineer but as a bike builder/race team chief he probably should hand the reigns over to someone more qualified, experienced, and great at fund raising.

Edwards07 08-29-2007 03:22 PM

I'd have to agree with futurehawk. If we were to give more independent builders a chance, i think we would all be surprised.

MotorToad 08-30-2007 10:11 AM

The AMA does have a sliding scale on how many bikes have to be produced compared to how many bikes the manufacturer produces. Ducati, for instance, had to sell fewer 999Rs than Honda had to sell CBR-100RRs. They also let H-D run the VR-1000 that was only ever street-legal in Poland and didn't come close to any sort of production volume that a showroom racebike should be held to.

Also, WSB let the Proton run, and so far as I know not a single one of those was sold to the public.

I think Motoczys has a lot better chance of being able to run in WSB or AMA than they have of being competitive in MotoGP.

Moto Man 04-23-2008 03:19 PM

Anyone see the "Birth of a Racer" show, on HDT Turbo, about the Motoczysz C1 development? Very cool! Its on again today and next month...

http://dhd.discovery.com/tv-schedule...723.120576.0.0
I am so tired of seeing American Chopper and Biker Jerk Off on TV it would be cool if more stuff like this was on.

Anyhow I saw the C1 at Laguna in 05, it looks so F***in awesome in person. I hope they get to race it soon.

Edwards07 04-23-2008 07:31 PM

Dude, I just saw that last night! It was a great documentary. Very, very inspiring!

-Miles

RCVTR 04-23-2008 08:53 PM

I'm glad to see they're still hard at it. That is some very innovative design work.
That would be fun work.
I sold my rear wheel to some guy at Motoczys a couple months ago.

sassage 04-24-2008 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Moto Man (Post 161049)
Anyone see the "Birth of a Racer" show, on HDT Turbo, about the Motoczysz C1 development? Very cool! Its on again today and next month...

http://dhd.discovery.com/tv-schedule...723.120576.0.0
I am so tired of seeing American Chopper and Biker Jerk Off on TV it would be cool if more stuff like this was on.

Anyhow I saw the C1 at Laguna in 05, it looks so F***in awesome in person. I hope they get to race it soon.

i thought it was a great show...caught it about a month ago...love to keep seeing development from these guys

Moto Man 04-28-2008 01:46 PM

I wonder if the new AMA rules ( possibly no more 1000cc IL4 engines!? ) will sink these guys?


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