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Apocalypse 04-15-2017 06:31 AM

Wanting to do a front end swap
 
I've been looking to do a front end swap for a while on my bike to a rc51 setup but rims are hard to find for the rc setup and i was wondering what would need to be done to use the superhawk rim with the forks other then different bearings and spacers

mikstr 04-15-2017 06:55 AM

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...r-forks-29622/

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...version-34375/

xeris 04-15-2017 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Apocalypse (Post 401570)
I've been looking to do a front end swap for a while on my bike to a rc51 setup but rims are hard to find for the rc setup and i was wondering what would need to be done to use the superhawk rim with the forks other then different bearings and spacers

RC wheels are getting hard to find. SP1 difficult, and the more desirable SP2 wheels more so, and a lot more money. I am in the final stages of a swap using RC forks. I decided on a front wheel from a CBR1K ('04-05 or '06-07 don't remember) because it's a three spoke, so the look will be close to the stock rear. I purchased a CBR900 rear (5 spoke) in anticipation of using an SP1 front wheel, but the reality of finding one put me off.
I suspect that at the very least I will need new spacers and maybe bearings as well. I've not reached that point yet. SP rotors bolt up to the CBR wheel, though I think there is a .5mm off-set difference between the SP and the CBR. Also might be an issue with the width of the mounting surfaces for the carrier on the wheel hub. Another issue to work through.
If I were to do it again I would save my pennies and wait till I had enough to buy a whole front end of choice complete.
If you haven't already, take a look at this thread.
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...p-guide-23751/

8541Hawk 04-15-2017 08:32 AM

Yeah RC wheel are getting rare. As for the brake rotors, the the 04-05 CBR rotors are a direct bolt on for the RC wheels with no offset issues. I have run CBR rotors on my RC set up from the time I installed it;)

mikstr 04-15-2017 09:40 AM

if you are absolutely adamant on using VTR wheel on RC front, you will need to have caliper brackets made ($$$$) to accommodate the VTR's smaller front rotors ... the bearings and spacers can likely be made to work (again, custom pieces?)

To reiterate what has been stated in previous threads, the easiest USD swap which allows you to keep the stock VTR wheel and rotors is the 2004-05 ZX10 swap (hence my prior posting of the links; though a USD CBR600RR front end could possibly be used though that would require some machining of the calipers to fit the smaller front rotors; not sure about the fork length on that set-up, however); ALL others require you to use a different wheel and rotors (which, from my reading of the question is precisely what the OP is trying to avoid) or some custom machining (as noted above)

so, ask yourself, how much time and money are you willing to invest because, in the end, anything can be made to fit...

8541Hawk 04-15-2017 01:59 PM

Micky know what he speaks of.....

Now if you have a RC front end and need a wheel, I can check my sources to see if I can find you one.
If you don't already have the forks, there are much easier swaps unless you have a need for the RC stuff.... then also remember you can ask any questions about the swap as that is what I have on my bike.....though it was done back when you could still get the RC stuff for a reasonable price.

smokinjoe73 04-15-2017 03:24 PM

Or you can do a CBR100RR complete front end. Super easy swap and better than the RC (IMHO).

Tons of those things around.

Like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-CBR-100...5Y4a1I&vxp=mtr

Subtract the cash you will get selling the parts you have and its not a bad option.

xeris 04-16-2017 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by 8541Hawk (Post 401573)
Yeah RC wheel are getting rare. As for the brake rotors, the the 04-05 CBR rotors are a direct bolt on for the RC wheels with no offset issues. I have run CBR rotors on my RC set up from the time I installed it;)

The info I found is the CBR rotors are 310mm dia. and the RC is 320mm. Do you know if this is correct?
I'm guessing that the 10mm difference does not matter.
This is more for a general FYI as I have RC rotors for my swap.

8541Hawk 04-16-2017 09:24 AM

I'll double check the years but the ones I have are 320mm and a direct bolt on.

mikstr 04-16-2017 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by xeris (Post 401589)
The info I found is the CBR rotors are 310mm dia. and the RC is 320mm. Do you know if this is correct?
I'm guessing that the 10mm difference does not matter.
This is more for a general FYI as I have RC rotors for my swap.

IIRC, 310mm were used in 04-05 (CBR1000RR) and the 06-07 used 320mm... Not sure about the later years (Ie. 2nd gen 1000)

8541Hawk 04-16-2017 09:34 PM

Sounds like I had the years reversed..... It has been a long time since I picked them up but the 320mm rotors from a bike that does not radial calipers are a direct bolt on for an RC front end.

fabiostar 04-20-2017 07:59 AM

is there 320 discs that bolt onto storm wheels and fit between the forks? as in the same offset as storm discs?

mikstr 04-20-2017 09:17 AM

the only ones that fit your specs were the oversize brake kit that EBC offered at one time (long since discontinued)


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