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ZERO Dec 22, 2015 04:17 AM

Did I forget anything for my shift mod?
 
My computer wont let me ad to my post. So I've made a new one.
I'm installing a FACTORY PRO full shift kit with shifting star.
I ordered from RON EYERS a R/H clutch cover gasket. A water pump gasket. A clutch hub lock nut and the washer that sits behind it.
I have a tube of Kawibond adhesive. Some grease and red locktite.
I purchased a clutch basket holding tool from Cycle Gear and have four quarts of synthetic Castrol, a filter and a gallon of 50/50 coolant. I also have a new radiator cap. Honda.
I plan on draining the coolant and oil before I open up the engine.
Anything I've forgotten?

xeris Dec 22, 2015 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by ZERO (Post 392497)
My computer wont let me ad to my post. So I've made a new one.
I'm installing a FACTORY PRO full shift kit with shifting star.
I ordered from RON EYERS a R/H clutch cover gasket. A water pump gasket. A clutch hub lock nut and the washer that sits behind it.
I have a tube of Kawibond adhesive. Some grease and red locktite.
I purchased a clutch basket holding tool from Cycle Gear and have four quarts of synthetic Castrol, a filter and a gallon of 50/50 coolant. I also have a new radiator cap. Honda.
I plan on draining the coolant and oil before I open up the engine.
Anything I've forgotten?

Yes you have. Leave out the type of oil going to use.

ZERO Dec 22, 2015 07:39 AM

I forgot what a touchy subject that is.
It's also taboo on the KAWASAKI ZX1441R site.

VTR1000F Dec 22, 2015 12:21 PM

What's wrong with synthetic Castrol? It's the best oil on the planet with the exception of the oil that I use.

ZERO Dec 23, 2015 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by VTR1000F (Post 392510)
What's wrong with synthetic Castrol? It's the best oil on the planet with the exception of the oil that I use.

For the record. I just received notification that my Factory Pro parts already shipped.
It only took a couple days and I have parts that are no longer made.
Thumbs up to them

skokievtr Dec 30, 2015 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by ZERO (Post 392522)
For the record. I just received notification that my Factory Pro parts already shipped.
It only took a couple days and I have parts that are no longer made.
Thumbs up to them

From whom and for how much did you order? FP still lists the EVO-7 Shift STAR Kit (PN: SHFT-EVO-HON-77) as being available for $220 + $16 ground shipping. I found it for $166 including shipping but they say FP is slow to ship to resellers and it could be a month. What do you know about availability and cost?

Twitchy Jan 6, 2016 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by skokievtr (Post 392600)
FP still lists the EVO-7 Shift STAR Kit (PN: SHFT-EVO-HON-77) as being available ..... but they say FP is slow to ship to resellers and it could be a month.

Ordered this kit early December and was told it was made to order. No estimated delivery time though...

AndyMX47 Jan 6, 2016 04:48 AM

For $200 more or less it better be a @#%@* automatic transmission.


How different is the shift star and arm than stock? Where's JackFlash when you need him?

thedeatons Jan 6, 2016 06:48 AM

I second this vote... Let's copy it and call it the Chinese shift mod...

James

E.Marquez Jan 6, 2016 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by AndyMX47 (Post 392717)
For $200 more or less it better be a @#%@* automatic transmission.

It's Not, so perhaps this MOD is not for you.
It is incrementally better, just like adding Jamie's shifter makes it incrementally better, or modifying Jamie's shifter for custom fit bushing makes it incrementally better.
But no, it is not making it anything as slick, or "automatic"


Originally Posted by AndyMX47 (Post 392717)
How different is the shift star and arm than stock? Where's JackFlash when you need him?

The arm has a bearing, nut just a stamped wheel riding on a pin.
The index wheel is cleaner, smoother and of different ramp contour.

Tons of pics on line comparing the two... should even be some here on this site.

AndyMX47 Jan 7, 2016 05:18 AM

I completely understand the parts and the affect each part has on the bike - it seems really expensive, that's all. It would be nice if we could get the shift arm with the bearing end on it for say, $50. I suppose the low production numbers are what jacks the price up.


OCMD I guess!

E.Marquez Jan 7, 2016 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by AndyMX47 (Post 392732)
I completely understand the parts and the affect each part has on the bike - it seems really expensive, that's all. It would be nice if we could get the shift arm with the bearing end on it for say, $50. I suppose the low production numbers are what jacks the price up.


OCMD I guess!

You can
The shift star and the arm/spring are sold separately.
Though they work together directly and I don't see the usefulness in doing just half the kit.
Yes, powersports parts are always pricey, even for like items in the automotive world. Look at an exhaust system. for what a quality header and muffler costs for a mainstream motorcycle I could have a top of the line header, SS tube and high end PAIR of mufflers for my Shelby or Mustang INSTALLED...:mad:
Fasteners are the same... I love shopping at ProBolt but the prices kill me,,, and there is no reason.. it's not material, and its not machine time costs. The parts are not complex and any journeymen CNC machinists can program his CNC machine to make a bolt.

skokievtr Jan 7, 2016 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by E.Marquez (Post 392722)
It is incrementally better, just like adding Jamie's shifter makes it incrementally better, or modifying Jamie's shifter for custom fit bushing makes it incrementally better.

Erik,

Do you think Jamie's shifte lever is worth it, given true heim joints are installed in the linkage? Also, did you install a bushing or bearing in Jamie's lever, and how and what exactly did you do (I could not find a link to where you may have discussed this before and provided this info)?

Thx, Bret

thedeatons Jan 7, 2016 05:52 PM

I kept the stock shifter and added a bushing, also shimmed the shifter on the bolt so there is no play, and changed to heims and the early model aluminum linkage rod...

It shifts like a different bike now.


Not that you asked me :)

James

JamieDaugherty Jan 7, 2016 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by E.Marquez (Post 392722)
or modifying Jamie's shifter for custom fit bushing makes it incrementally better.

Erik, don't forget only the very first run of shift levers had the Teflon bushings - that was quite some time ago. The vast majority we have made had ball bearing pivots which is the design today.

E.Marquez Jan 8, 2016 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty (Post 392742)
Erik, don't forget only the very first run of shift levers had the Teflon bushings - that was quite some time ago. The vast majority we have made had ball bearing pivots which is the design today.

And that's why you're still in business, you don't sell what works, you develop better.

If I put the SH back on the road, I'll need a new shifter (and most of the right side :mad:)

ZERO Jan 13, 2016 02:38 AM

It's installed and it's one of the best mods I've ever done on any bike!!
It shifts SSOOO much better.

Twitchy Jan 13, 2016 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty (Post 392742)
Erik, don't forget only the very first run of shift levers had the Teflon bushings - that was quite some time ago. The vast majority we have made had ball bearing pivots which is the design today.

I am intrigued by this shifter. I hear a lot about it but have never seen a picture. I am assuming Jamie you are Daugherty Motorsports or associated?? Checked the website for this shifter but not listed, so I thought it was a discontinued item. Are they still available?

E.Marquez Jan 14, 2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Twitchy (Post 392862)
I am intrigued by this shifter. I hear a lot about it but have never seen a picture. I am assuming Jamie you are Daugherty Motorsports or associated?? Checked the website for this shifter but not listed, so I thought it was a discontinued item. Are they still available?

That is he :)

Send him an email and ask about the shifter jamie@daughertymotorsports.com

Here are two pics of the shifter.. You can also see the rod end modification I did to the link rod.

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...1&d=1452817245

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...1&d=1452817247

VTR1000F Jan 14, 2016 07:02 PM

It doesn't look like that these days. The design has changed. I'll post some pics tomorrow.

VTR1000F Jan 15, 2016 07:39 AM

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Here's the current design as of last September. This is how it came from Jamie; I haven't added any hardware. Be sure to specify which type of link rod you have so he provides the appropriate Heim joint rod end - male or female.

102dals Jun 25, 2016 05:14 PM

JD,
What's a shifter running these days? $$?

Wolverine Jun 25, 2016 06:15 PM

Hey 102, word on the street is that Jamie is currently not in the US, so be patient on a reply.

JamieDaugherty Jun 26, 2016 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by 102dals (Post 397078)
JD,
What's a shifter running these days? $$?

Just sent you a PM.

I don't like to post prices because they are subject to change. Feel free to check out my site for the latest pricing details. For items that are not shown on the site (like these shifters) feel free to drop me an email. Thanks!


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