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macworld 04-04-2008 04:45 AM

-1 front, +2 on the back
 
looking to do the 520 conversion, but i am not sure about that combo. is it to much for the street? how bad does it affect gas miles. any peoples advice on that combo is appreciated.

FL02SupaHawk996 04-04-2008 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by macworld (Post 158394)
looking to do the 520 conversion, but i am not sure about that combo. is it to much for the street? how bad does it affect gas miles. any peoples advice on that combo is appreciated.

Mac, I'm running stock 530 chain with 15/43 setup and love it everywhere but out on the interstates cuz it gets buzzy when you're in 6th gear at 75 mph where you'll be turning 5K rpm.

That's my 2 cents:draggin:

superbling 04-04-2008 06:36 AM

I personally think it's too much. Plus your mpg/range will be even further reduced. I bought that same ratio for my current VFR and ended up getting another 520 stock front so now its a 0/+2 ratio. FWIW

Also if you are considering buying from SCUM of all parts on ebay, you've been warned.

HawkRider98 04-04-2008 08:16 AM

I am running 520 15x43 and average around 45mpg on my 120mile daily commute. Speed stays below 70mph and I don't get on the gas. 70mph is 4500rpm. When I refuel, takes about 2.5 gallons. When I go to play it is loads of fun.

macworld 04-04-2008 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by superbling (Post 158415)
I personally think it's too much. Plus your mpg/range will be even further reduced. I bought that same ratio for my current VFR and ended up getting another 520 stock front so now its a 0/+2 ratio. FWIW

Also if you are considering buying from SCUM of all parts on ebay, you've been warned.

are they known for junk or something?

killer5280 04-04-2008 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by macworld (Post 158394)
looking to do the 520 conversion, but i am not sure about that combo. is it to much for the street? how bad does it affect gas miles. any peoples advice on that combo is appreciated.

I have been running 15/43 for awhile now and I like it.

synaptik 04-04-2008 10:20 AM

i am looking at doing a chain conversion over the summer ...

i do a lot of interstate riding at 70+ so i dont want buzzing but i want to improve responsiveness and acceleration ............. (not losing much mpg either)

what would be the best way to go?

FL02SupaHawk996 04-04-2008 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by synaptik (Post 158444)
i am looking at doing a chain conversion over the summer ...

i do a lot of interstate riding at 70+ so i dont want buzzing but i want to improve responsiveness and acceleration ............. (not losing much mpg either)

what would be the best way to go?

Syn, I'd go down 1 in the front and leave the back stock. You can use your original chain if you stick with 530 saving lots of $$$:thumbsup:

Also, if you find it's not enough for you picking up a 43 for the back later is no big deal;)

Hotbrakes 04-04-2008 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by macworld (Post 158394)
looking to do the 520 conversion, but i am not sure about that combo. is it to much for the street? how bad does it affect gas miles. any peoples advice on that combo is appreciated.

I love the conversion. I bought mine from sumofallparts on Ebay...no problems with my experience. Reaper and I rode the other day, we filled up at the same time and then when it was time to get gas again, I took 2.49 gallons, while he took 2.9 gallons. He is running the stock gearing. He also weighs 250 compared to my 220, but I was wearing full leathers (heavy) so do the math. Interstate riding isn't that bad, but I usually don't ride more than 50 miles on that boring road at a time. If you like backroad blasting, and aren't worried about keeping up with Busa's at 180, do it!

trinc 04-04-2008 05:28 PM

i did the same .... sum of all parts & went -1 +2. i bought a speedo healer to correct the difference ( even though it was fun seeing +170 )

i'm do again as the rear sprocket is toast ( vortex sprockets are pretty soft ) and will buy the same kit again.

tim

Hotbrakes 04-04-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by trinc (Post 158485)
i did the same .... sum of all parts & went -1 +2. i bought a speedo healer to correct the difference ( even though it was fun seeing +170 )

i'm do again as the rear sprocket is toast ( vortex sprockets are pretty soft ) and will buy the same kit again.

tim

How many miles did you get out of your rear? (sprocket)

Spaz' 04-04-2008 06:16 PM

+1 on the "Scum of all parts" at "the 'bay"...
 
I won't deter the thread, but I will input my two cents on the matter of "Scum of all parts" at "the 'bay":
They may have changed since then, but three years ago I bought an '03 Yamaha R1 swingarm from them and they put the fucking thing in a box with no packaging - literally just a cardboard box and sent it up to me. When it got here, I immediately noticed where the shock linkage mounts, the tabs had been kicked and dragged from there to here over concrete flooring and whatever else it drug along during shipping.
I emailed pics and complained and never got a reply back.

joshuatest 04-04-2008 08:37 PM

I'm going to try that combo on the stock chain here shortly... I know the 520 kits on ebay are cheap, but any good places to buy steel sprockets for stock chain other than Dinnis Kirk... they aren't to bad on there, but if there are cheaper sites, i would love to know..

Edwards07 04-05-2008 12:06 AM

I have a -1/+1, no problems. Did notice a bit of a change in the low end. Makes it a little easier to pull wheelies:) But haven't looked at the gas mileage yet to see if it has affected it. My 2 cents

trinc 04-05-2008 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Hotbrakes (Post 158487)
How many miles did you get out of your rear? (sprocket)

i bought my kit end of 2/07. i don't note mileage but i imagine this sprocket has 4k-6k miles. i don't commute much... spirited rides & trackdays and the occasional 1 wheel romp ; )

in my years of riding i've noticed that once a sprocket starts these signs of wear they seem to go downhill fast.

i havn't measured the chain length yet but i've been VERY impressed with the lack of stretch on the chain. it rarely needs a small adjustment.

VORTEX - now has a hard coating ( retails for like $10 more ) i'd ( i'll ) upgrade next go round.

here is a pic ... after 1 yr.
http://www.pacifier.com/~trinc/images/sprocket_1yr.jpg

tim

J.J. 04-05-2008 12:50 PM

:search:

See that button at the top of your screen called "SEARCH"??!?!! This topic has been talked about approximately 5,439 times. :horse:

and quite possibly more.

J.J. 04-05-2008 01:01 PM

Heres one! https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=14187

Heres another! https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=14070

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J.J. 04-05-2008 01:15 PM

Want a few more?

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=8949

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=8830

Heres a good one: Its about optimum sprocket sizes! https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=8764

This one might interest you - its about chain and sprocket conversions!:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=7951

Heres one about chain and sprocket reccomendations!:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=7549

Heres one about sprocket opinions!:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=6586

J.J. 04-05-2008 01:21 PM

Heres one questioning what gearing to run:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=6685

Heres one thats about 10 threads down from this thread, its about gearing!:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=14070

Youre welcome for taking the 5 seconds to type "sprockets" into the search field. (Or "gearing"?!?)

:boom:


Gawd dammit....

GeMs 04-05-2008 01:23 PM

Haha. I know how you feel man.

drew_c14 04-05-2008 01:40 PM

Calm down man, nearly every possible subject has been discussed at one time or another. If all anyone ever did was search there would be nothing new to talk about.

Jeepingoose 04-05-2008 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by drew_c14 (Post 158574)
Calm down man, nearly every possible subject has been discussed at one time or another. If all anyone ever did was search there would be nothing new to talk about.

:iagree:

divingindaytona 04-05-2008 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by trinc (Post 158549)
i bought my kit end of 2/07. i don't note mileage but i imagine this sprocket has 4k-6k miles. i don't commute much... spirited rides & trackdays and the occasional 1 wheel romp ; )

in my years of riding i've noticed that once a sprocket starts these signs of wear they seem to go downhill fast.

i havn't measured the chain length yet but i've been VERY impressed with the lack of stretch on the chain. it rarely needs a small adjustment.

VORTEX - now has a hard coating ( retails for like $10 more ) i'd ( i'll ) upgrade next go round.

here is a pic ... after 1 yr.
http://www.pacifier.com/~trinc/images/sprocket_1yr.jpg

tim


I can see that that sprocket is starting to shark, its about time to swap it out, or reverse it.

macworld 04-06-2008 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by J.J. (Post 158572)
Heres one questioning what gearing to run:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=6685

Heres one thats about 10 threads down from this thread, its about gearing!:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=14070

Youre welcome for taking the 5 seconds to type "sprockets" into the search field. (Or "gearing"?!?)

:boom:


Gawd dammit....

wow... first off thanks for taking the lords name in vain over something so small. i hope thats worth it. second of all, get off your high horse. maybe things have changed since those posts. maybe hind sight is 20/20 for some people since then. maybe after posting up those post, somebody found something better. i dont know. i do know that i dont care for your attitude about the situation. you see, this is a forum. its not a book. maybe you should go read a book, and leave this forum for people to discuss issues. what does it matter to you what people ask about?

E.Marquez 04-06-2008 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by J.J. (Post 158572)
Heres one questioning what gearing to run:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=6685

Heres one thats about 10 threads down from this thread, its about gearing!:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=14070

Youre welcome for taking the 5 seconds to type "sprockets" into the search field. (Or "gearing"?!?)

:boom:


Gawd dammit....


Just curious, ... How long did it take you to do the search, make several different posts and write an insult that was less than helpful to a fellow member? Was it worth your time to be that uptight. Or maybe you could have spent that same time and actually been pleasant to a fellow member and helped. Perhaps you should email the board owners and request a full refund of your membership payment. :cool:

Or perhaps

Relax,,, no need to blow a gasket.... Yes a search feature is a great thing, but many times a fresh look at an older issue will revile new ways / equipment / thoughts.


In answer to the posters question....

15/43 is nice on the back roads and like... but a bit much is you ride super slab. We (wife and I who also rides) have a 75 mile one way slab ride to an area we like go to on weekends.. I love the 15/43 when we take all back roads,,, but hate the gearing when we take the 70+ MPH country highway or main freeway.


J.J. 04-06-2008 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by macworld (Post 158627)
wow... first off thanks for taking the lords name in vain over something so small. i hope thats worth it. second of all, get off your high horse. maybe things have changed since those posts. maybe hind sight is 20/20 for some people since then. maybe after posting up those post, somebody found something better. i dont know. i do know that i dont care for your attitude about the situation. you see, this is a forum. its not a book. maybe you should go read a book, and leave this forum for people to discuss issues. what does it matter to you what people ask about?

First of all, I didnt take the lords name in vain. You'll notice I said "gawd", not "GOD", so relax.

Second of all, yes, this is a forum. If you ask a question that has been asked hundreds of times before, one that has been beaten to death then resurrected to be beaten some more, and then more, and then more, then you are apt to get at least one sarcastic and/or annoyed response. Deal with it.

macworld 04-06-2008 02:35 PM

i am not the one complaining about a question like a little girl. take your own advice and you deal with it. if you see a question about something that bothers you, then dont go to that post. everything on this forum is repetitive to one point or another. our bikes are over 10 yrs old. there is nothing new or groundbreaking going on. pls dont be an internet tuff guy like that. its pathetic. and thanks for the loophole with God. i am sure he is appreicative

GeMs 04-06-2008 05:31 PM

Maybe not everyone here has the same beliefs as everyone else. And if you cant deal with that, then living in the real world is not for you. But I agree with J.J. Do a search. There are a trillion threads about gearing. Usually 1 every week and a half. I'm pretty sure that there are at least 3 on the first page. If you have a different question that wasn't answered in one of the trillion threads, by all means post away. They wouldn't store all of the dated threads if they weren't important, and/or didn't have useful information thats already been discussed. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or rude, but I'm sure thats how a lot of people feel.

Condor 04-06-2008 08:37 PM

wow.

RK1 04-06-2008 10:32 PM

This is an interesting discussion, but I have a few questions;

What is the best motor oil for my Superhawk?

What is the best rear tire for winning a race with my buddy and his 2006 Yamaha R1 LE?

Should I install the Dynojet or the FactoryPro jet kit?

What are the best slip-ons and which air filter should I use?

Why would a guy from Athens keep insisting that "This is Sparta"?

I mean come on, Athens is in Georgia. Everybody knows Sparta is in New Jersey.


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