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geekonamotorcycle 04-15-2011 11:36 AM

04-15-11 Muffler repairs in progress. I need advice
 
04-15-11 Muffler repairs in progress. I need advice


Ok sO I have pulled obtained new gaskets and pulled off the exhaust pipes to take a look at whats going on.
I am not sure that there are any actual cracks but rather it looks like the welder at honda was having epiliptic siezures
on the job. In any case I am headed down to a muffler shop to get their opinion on wether or not these should be patched. Seeing as they are a muffler shop I
think they might find a reason.

Below are pictures. I found no gaskets at all. Unless you can see some that I do not. Input is certainly appreciated. And of course a music video for this repair is coming.

This is what 47$ really looks like.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3395.JPG

To the left is the pipe which causes me the most concern
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3398.JPG

Rear cylinder connection
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3399.JPG

Overview
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3396.JPG

Front cyclinder connection
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3400.JPG

Tail pip rear assembly
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3401.JPG

Is this really a Crack?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3404.JPG

How the hell do I fix this?
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3402.JPG

Gaskets where art thou?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3405.JPG

I hope the gaskets actually fit!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3406.JPG

Where are the gaskets?
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3407.JPG

Still not seeing a Gasket. Is this a sick Joke?
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3409.JPG

It must be and I am not laughing.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3413.JPG


Any advice on how to fit the gaskets in here? I have a feeling it might be a problem.

7moore7 04-15-2011 11:46 AM

Haha, nope, you had no gaskets! Surprise! Guess you found somewhat of a dud bike like I did. Good news is, now you know more about your bike, and it will most definitely fit together better. That crack still worries me, but I'm sure you can tell more in person or at the muffler shop.

The gaskets aren't hard to push in- they're kind of a friction fit but soft and they crush a little bit when you tighten the clamps (hence the one time use). The copper gaskets are a little tricky, and be aware of the torque specs when tightening the pipes to the motor heads as they don't need to be tightened as much as you would think.

7moore7 04-15-2011 11:50 AM

Also, if you want to/have time while they're off, grab some steel wool or a scotch-brite pad and some wd-40 and clean some of that rust off. They're already corroded enough that you don't have to worry about ruining any factor coating on them...

zmaniv 04-15-2011 11:53 AM

You can remove the dent by freezing water in the pipe. fill with water, get the ends to freeze first by wrapping a warm towel around the area that has the dent then the ends will freeze and since water expands it will push the dent out

geekonamotorcycle 04-15-2011 12:13 PM

Ok Took it to meinekie and had to cracks welded up for 34$ after tax

YouTube - 04-15-11 Getting my pipes welded

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3415.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3416.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...0/IMG_3414.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_C...415_144732.jpg

geekonamotorcycle 04-15-2011 12:28 PM

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grr so here is a big concern of mine that came true. The gasket does not fit. The guy at the shop said I should not try to bend the tabs out but now I am not sure what to do. The gaskets going to each muffler simply will not fit and cannot be coaxed either but much worse that this. Those are not a big concern to me though since they dont actually leak. I may need to contact kereker for those gaskets. The front cylinder though does not have a casket. I cleaned it up with some goo off and I can see the lip where the gasket should have been. any suggestions on how to get this gasket in? I am going to have to have to bend those tabs methinks.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_C...415_152041.jpg

Wicky 04-15-2011 12:43 PM

Good to see the weld done on the header - been there done that :-)

Check the copper head gasket isn't still in the exhaust outlet on the cylinder head - as it crushes and get sooty from carbon, gets camouflaged and needs prising out .

To get the new header/link graphite seal in - remove old clamp and carefully open up the pipe flange to allow the seal to fit in, might want to try copper grease to lube it in.

Use copper grease on all your exhausts fittings - Was your bike imported to sunny Florida from a more northerly State as I thought the climate wouldn't be so corrosive...

geekonamotorcycle 04-15-2011 04:59 PM

Ok installed and working. Also fixed my headlamp and got oil changed. Video to come.

geekonamotorcycle 04-15-2011 05:02 PM

I am getting much smother power delivery no pops and not exhaust air spraying on my ass.

Thank you everybody for your input and advice it is much appreciated

geekonamotorcycle 04-15-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Wicky (Post 299169)
Good to see the weld done on the header - been there done that :-)

Check the copper head gasket isn't still in the exhaust outlet on the cylinder head - as it crushes and get sooty from carbon, gets camouflaged and needs prising out .

To get the new header/link graphite seal in - remove old clamp and carefully open up the pipe flange to allow the seal to fit in, might want to try copper grease to lube it in.

Use copper grease on all your exhausts fittings - Was your bike imported to sunny Florida from a more northerly State as I thought the climate wouldn't be so corrosive...

I am not sure where she came from, but I found registration docs from 2 owners ago in 2004. The previous owner was a bike painter from the other side of the bay somewhere. Apparently he knows the owners or the shop I bought it from or worked there or something. This also explains her unique color and polished frame.


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