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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Streetfighter conversion headlamp! AWESOME!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tchlink:top:en

Found this while looking for parts for my interceptor as I'm converting it to a streetfighter and I thought I'd post here because it looks so cool!

There's a couple of improvements that I could see right off the bat, but I think this is a cool idea.

I haven't purchased it yet, and I'm still debating but someone on the forum might like it!
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Are those household halogen bulbs in that setup?!?
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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they got those same lights at home depot,save your money,find something else.
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I'm pretty sure they're automotive halogen, just not the h4 we're used too because those are not dual filament.

First thing I'd do is mash some projectors in there and do a dual setup with 1/1 high/low, or just blindingly bright all the time

which I am a big fan of as lane splittin' is legal and people are really incompetent when you put them behind the wheel of a big BMW.

I just thought the faring was kinda nifty. The price would indicate that it wouldn't be all that hot of quality but hey, you never know.
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Try this link
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/asiapart/m.html
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:00 AM
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I've been interested in streetfighters for awhile (as I am converting my bike to one as well... the thread is around here somewhere) and those things are pretty common. While they do function they are more of a "stuntbike" setup and a cheap fix in the streetfighter world. A lot of people take their nice headlights off and strap those things on so that they can toy around in parking lots without messing up their nice gear.

You're right... their price also indicates the quality of light they put out...

If you're wanting to put nice projectors in there, that would be cool, but they're so close to the forks I doubt there would be room!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Trail...ht_4247wt_1165

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harle...5#ht_500wt_956

I know there's even cooler ones out there... just no time to find them this morning...

But to each their own! Not trying to be debbie downer, if you like it than make it yours!

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erno, thanks for the link, I liked a lot of things there too.

I'm just trying to compile some goodies for a shopping list and hopefully bribe one of my friends to PS it all together because how ****-a** miserable would that be to build something and have it look like a 2yr olds finger-painting blob.

who knows though, I've been lurking/following a lot of really good looking builds and it's given me many ideas. I am one to get ideas from others, but I much rather enjoy having something that is mildly unique.
Old Feb 23, 2011 | 04:27 AM
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IMHO I don't care for those lights.

Try www.rallylights.com call and ask them about headlight kits. They have an awesome HID light, may have mounts.
Old Feb 23, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
I've been interested in streetfighters for awhile (as I am converting my bike to one as well... the thread is around here somewhere) and those things are pretty common. While they do function they are more of a "stuntbike" setup and a cheap fix in the streetfighter world. A lot of people take their nice headlights off and strap those things on so that they can toy around in parking lots without messing up their nice gear.

You're right... their price also indicates the quality of light they put out...

If you're wanting to put nice projectors in there, that would be cool, but they're so close to the forks I doubt there would be room!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Trail...ht_4247wt_1165

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harle...5#ht_500wt_956

I know there's even cooler ones out there... just no time to find them this morning...

But to each their own! Not trying to be debbie downer, if you like it than make it yours!

That orange one makes me want to freaking RALPH! Whoever proposed that guy in Thailand seems to have found the good looking, cheaply priced, alright quality streetfighter headlight conversion!
Old Feb 23, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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Haha, I kind of like the design of the orange stacked lights, but I'm not the one buying the light!

One personal preference in lights for me was the quality of the light output. A lot of those streetfighter kits have poor lighting capabilities, and most aren't DOT approved. Many people don't care about this- they plan on using their bike light as a style piece and just a running light for during the day. The OP mentioned throwing in some HID projectors- this would totally void my concern, I was just throwing it out there.

And those Thai ones do look pretty cool...
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Someone mentioned before having them be appliance lights and I don't think that's too far off, they look like tiny g4 base bulbs like the same that are in our 3rd eyes.

But looking at the KTM-esq orange one makes me wonder (opinions here please); running a projector withOUT a shield over it (stock housing, glass or plastic). For some reason I think that they'd get damaged or dirty and be much more likely to lose lighting capabilities vs. inside regular housing.

anyone have any definitive proof of cons of doing this?

I'm threadjacking my own thread hahahahahaha
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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I had this same question as I am using a projector light as a custom setup... (it's not picturable yet)

I talked with a guy named Matt at The Retrofit Source and there are no major problems with having a straight projector light with no protection from the front. As in, the projector won't have a short life or anything. Naturally, with a glass lens, there is a chance that it could get damaged, cracked, dimpled, etc... but you are able to replace the lens for like 15 or 20 bucks.

It's a little trade off, as a full housing will offer more protection, but he did not flinch at all having the front his product exposed to the elements. I worded the question in a way that I was just worried about the front of the projector. I will have somewhat of a shroud covering the electronics. The way that I see it, replacing the lens takes just a little effort and cost as replacing a clear cover over the front.
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Very similar to my acerbis unit which I paid almost triple for. Alot of people on this forum dont seem to like acerbis for reasons i understand but I'v been perfectly satisfied, if not overjoyed, with mine. I will be the first to admit it's simply not quite as bright though (as OEM). And would exprct the same if not worse for this even cheaper model.
Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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So I'm thinking this might work for a combo....

Either this housing - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STREE...item4aa40e1101

Or this housing - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Stree...item4aa3f277d2

With my favor going to the second one, think it's very similar but with a somewhat skinnier facing out profile that I think will fit the hawk the way I intend to set it up with the 08 1krr tail... Anyhow, that said, I like this projector kit, I'm thinking maybe I could stick it into the top or lower spot only, but who knows, maybe if the first implant is a success and there's room I eventually go for two. The good thing about this part is two fold, A. I don't do much night riding, and have great eyes so even when I do I just take it easy anyhow. B. It's only freaking $50! If I wreck it, it's cheap to replace, if it doesn't fit right, it's cheap to replace and if it does fit right and I can plop this bad boy into the housing - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...540+&viewitem=

it sure would look bad freaking *** if done right, might take me a couple tries to get it right, but imho would/will be very worth it when I DO pull it off... This site is chalk FULL of good **** ideas... right on!
Old Feb 25, 2011 | 12:47 AM
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@blink, something to think about is the fact that the kit you're looking at is just the bulbs and ballasts, and that doesn't include the projector.

I have gone this route before, but it is def. the wrong way to go as it just vomits light in front of you and the beam is very erratic. I have it on one of my bikes because the people around here are terrible and I've been merged into more times than I've hit the starter on the bike. Search for using HID bulbs in stock housing and you'll see just a couple of examples of the disasters/stories that ensue.

what you'd want to do is get in contact with TRS (The retrofit Source [and no, I'm not affiliated but Matt was freaking awesome when I did my conversion]) and slap one of their projectors in there. The H4 kit on the projectors make it easy enough for a monkey to do it and it's really, really, REALLY cheap to do. (once again, I am not affiliated with TRS at all but I've been raving about them to anyone who needs a conversion because they're quite awesome) if not ebay has some nice g35 ballasts up that I like a lot, that or the nissan z series are freaking awesome paired with a nice denso ballast its just that it makes it a little more work as you need to figure out how to bold everything up.

Theres a bunch of write ups on doing the conversion and they can provide far more information than I can. The one thing I did differently was use the morimoto mini h4s and they fit in there really nice.

The difference between the two (stock vs. projector HID) is the difference between knowing what you're going to hit .5 seconds before you do, and being able to avoid it in the first place.

This was the first mod I started off with despite only doing commuting night riding, well that and CCT. But I highly recommend it regardless of any other mods you're planning on doing.

AND AS WELL, just keeps getting better, if you do it in the stock housing and decide to go to streetfighter, you can pull that badboy outta there lickedy-split and have a good looking conversion on your streetfighter!

watch out for bulb temperature too, 3k is pretty yellow, 6k provides for the greatest light output, I like 8k just because it makes it blue enough to make people see the difference and get their attention, but still has a really high output of LM.

Here again, just my .02!


@7moore7

I was thinking the same thing; I also worked with Matt at TRS (oddly enough I typed to superblink before realizing you had replied too!) but I didn't ask him about the safety of the projectors. They're glass, and yes, cheap enough, so they should be pretty durable but I dunno. I've been reasoning it like this;

Think about wearing a helmet while riding vs driving in a car. Bug splats on your visor and you're missing a 5'x5' region of your vision because of the proximity to your face, bug splats on your car and you don't even know it until you wash your windows again and notice there's bugs everywhere, again has to do with the proximity.
I'm relating this to the the topic because the glass projector (which inverts the light source to show on the ground) has a much closer proximity to the bulb vs. splatting on the stock housing.

Might just be paranoia, but I have an odd obsession with really bright lights

I think that I'm going to just mount my projector on my 'ceptor with no plastics/protection because it's kept me at my computer too long looking for a solution!
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Not too bad... It might look good on a show piece. I don't know how well they will do at night. The lights do look a little on the small side.
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bass4dude- I had a similar experience with Matt- just awesome, he explained everything and seemed to take quite a bit of time out of his day just to help me with a $120 projector/ballast setup.

Superblink- I'm going to elaborate slightly on the projector vs bulb from what bass4dude said. The bulb/ballast (just the conversion kit) is mounted in whatever housing that your motorcycle has. While the lights burn way brighter, the filiment is not in the same position as the reflectors were designed for. So instead of a controlled, brighter beam, you get reflectors bouncing much brighter light all over the place- this has a tendency to blind drivers which isn't safe for anyone.

Projectors are a separate small cage and lens that are designed to reflect an HID bulb. These are those cool foggy spheres that you see in modern cars...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unive...item415705fbb6

Because they are small, many people just cut a hole in their current housing and retrofit one of these suckers in.

Bass4Dude- Back to the last issue. I hear ya on not wanting anything messing with the lens so close to the bulb- could cause magnified problems. It's a small trade off I guess... Where I'm from, there isn't much weather or bugs to deal with so a relatively minor issue.
Old Feb 27, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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In all reality, I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem with it either because I don't live in an area with much bugs, but it does rain occasionally as I'm closer to the mountains here and that'd be my main concern. And anyways, the output of these HID kits would probably buzz through a bug no problem, but there again, might get a little messy.

I'm not all that concerned with it but now I'm just trying to find some of the smaller projectors. I'm going to be running a 3" with a STI-R lenses from TRS paired with maybe a 2.5" projector. I want to try to find something maybe even smaller than that so you can really see the difference between the 2 lenses. I saw a like 1.5" DRL projector on a mazda today and that looked pretty sick, and I thought that'd be cool to have the 3" on top, and 1.5" under it.

That or one with CCFL and one without. ARGH! SO MANY CHOICES!
Old Feb 27, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Your idea of a small projector stacked with a large one sounds awesome. You'll have to keep us updated- I'm actually kinda jealous that I didn't think of it, but I got the bi-xenon so will be running just one (for the time being, at least)!
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This setup would scare the kids

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-HEAD...item33654f09d1
Old Feb 28, 2011 | 03:13 AM
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HA! I'd just be worried about those tendrils slappin me on the wrists going 70!

WHEREs THE RIPLEY VERSION OF IT!

That gives me an idea, plastercast your face, remold it using fiberglass, add some headlights and paint 'er up! Bolt your face up to the bike and call it a day! Let the ladies know what's beneath the helmet!

and 7moore7, I'm just trying to figure out whether the charging system on my 'ceptor can handle the 2 ballasts, because it's apprx. 40% less than a similar halogen, but 2 makes it 20% over stock! and on a really old stator and out-dated R/R that just seems like a disaster waiting to happen but ohh well, live and learn eh? I did find some smaller universal fog light projectors with 2" and no cut-off, which means I'd have some fun mod's coming my way, but I think that'd make a nice addition because I couldn't find anything smaller than that, and looking at the geometry of light output, I don't think I'd want to go any smaller than that.
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personally I think the honda 599 headlight is damn near the best light i have ever seen, great quality great light output can easily be mounted

as seen here on my 919 not sure how it would look on the SH but i bet it would look nice and the windsheild is a buell blast and blast mounts very easy install
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Originally Posted by bass4dude
and 7moore7, I'm just trying to figure out whether the charging system on my 'ceptor can handle the 2 ballasts, because it's apprx. 40% less than a similar halogen, but 2 makes it 20% over stock! and on a really old stator and out-dated R/R that just seems like a disaster waiting to happen but ohh well, live and learn eh?
Well... There's a big flaw with that logic... a HID ballast is usually 35W... That breaks down to rougly 14V 2,5A... A standard bulb is usually 65/55W which breaks down to 14V 4.7A... So yeah, about half...

But what you are forgetting here is that those 35W is steady state once the bulb is fully lit... A 35W ballast will happily draw up to 5A on startup... Meaning that two of them will draw 10A through a wire undersized for the stock 4.7A...

Oh, and old and outdated R/R's prefers it if you increase demand, then the R/R needs to convert less to heat... The stator doesn't care either way, since it is always producing the same output, only dependant on the RPM...

So my prediction... Melted wiring... Do yourself a favour and use a relay and dedicated wiring...
Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Thank you Tweety, I actually didn't know the actual draw of the Ballasts/bulbs but I've always read about 40% I've just never gone to try to do the math with the wattage and amperage.

Either way I'd be using wire that was designed for much higher currents going through it when I make it. I have a really bad habit of making things with solid core wire, which makes it really fun to try to form to the frame to keep it concealed. But hey! I'd rather spend 3 hours over-engineering something than 100x that trying to fix something that broke because it was under-engineered.


I actually had a really funny (not so funny, in all reality) experience recently where my buddy destroyed all of the electronics in his car after I explicitly told him, over and over and over again, that his car could NOT handle his stereo system and he fried his ECU, gauges, alternator and he managed to send a strong enough pulse to blow his fuel injectors. Lucky for him it wasn't some new ritsy-titsy BMW where everything costs an arm and a leg, but still, just a reminder that electricity can be a cruel mistress.
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Oh please for the love of all that is holy... No dang solid core wire here...

Use any decent quality multistranded 10-12 AWG wire... 14-16 AWG will work for one, but is a bit wimpy for two... There is a right way of doing things, and a little math helps... A lot...

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I can count on my fingers and toes, does that work for math =D

1+1=turkey sandwich?
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Originally Posted by 3Dcycle
personally I think the honda 599 headlight is damn near the best light i have ever seen, great quality great light output can easily be mounted

as seen here on my 919 not sure how it would look on the SH but i bet it would look nice and the windsheild is a buell blast and blast mounts very easy install


Thats a sweet looking ride you have there 3Dcycle
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