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Truckinduc 02-10-2009 03:25 PM

Who wants CCT's
 
So im thinking about making a run of manual CCT's.

http://i43.tinypic.com/21cbla1.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/25aoi6a.jpg

Here is a picture of mine Ive made for my bike.

http://i40.tinypic.com/27xi8md.jpg

Price is 70$ plus shipping.

This price includes the 2 stainless steel bolts, 4 nuts, one welded to the end of each bolt, and 2 gaskets.


Who is interested?

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 03:26 PM

http://i41.tinypic.com/2m4vrbr.jpg

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 03:28 PM

http://i39.tinypic.com/209poat.jpg

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 03:29 PM

http://i44.tinypic.com/xkxd9s.jpg

FL02SupaHawk996 02-10-2009 04:30 PM

Dang it, I know I souldda waited before ordering new gaskets:(

Good luck bro they look better than the ones I have and I paid over $100!
RC

Slim 02-10-2009 04:50 PM

You'd be doing everyone a big favor by counter-boring the attaching bolt holes. Trust me - been there, done that.

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 05:02 PM

ok. whats your reasoning behind that though?

Slim 02-10-2009 05:13 PM

It's easier to set the lock nut. With the bolt heads sticking out like you have in those pics it's not as easy to get an open end wrench on that lock nut. With the heads recessed, below the outer face of the block, you can do so easily.

Also keep in mind that most people won't have the engine out of their bike, so this feature would really help since there's a bike in the way of making life easy. It's one thing to angle a wrench when you have all the room in the world - when there's a bike in the way you usually just curse and swear. :p

I speak from experience. I built a pair for myself (i'm a machinist) and learned the hard way. Just trying to help you make a better product, not only for yourself, but for your customers. :) :cool:

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 05:26 PM

Now it makes perfect sense.

Alright, Ill do that from now on. I have to get a special bit.

Im making mine with a band saw, lathe and drill press.

Slim 02-10-2009 05:33 PM

That's the best way to do it, man. The KISS principle is worth it's weight in gold.

Knowing this i'd strongly recommend using a counterboring bit, what's meant for the job. Please avoid doing a hack job and grinding the tip of a larger diameter drill flat. This can easily result in injury and/or scrap parts. I would also not recommend using an endmill for like reasons.

Before you go too nuts, though, double check how far you can screw those mounting bolts into the heads. If the bolts won't screw into the heads much farther then you might have to use a thicker place to start with before you can do this (counterbore).

Moto Man 02-10-2009 05:35 PM

I'd take a pair. Rather have them plain metal though or possibly yellow.

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Slim (Post 199905)
That's the best way to do it, man. The KISS principle is worth it's weight in gold.

Knowing this i'd strongly recommend using a counterboring bit, what's meant for the job. Please avoid doing a hack job and grinding the tip of a larger diameter drill flat. This can easily result in injury and/or scrap parts. I would also not recommend using an endmill for like reasons.

Before you go too nuts, though, double check how far you can screw those mounting bolts into the heads. If the bolts won't screw into the heads much farther then you might have to use a thicker place to start with before you can do this (counterbore).

Yes the bolts have about 1/4 inch shank. Im using 3/4 inch aluminum, but in turning them down on the lathe so there is a part that actually fits snugly in the head.

Even if I cant recess the head of the allen bolt completely, every little bit helps.

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Moto Man (Post 199907)
I'd take a pair. Rather have them plain metal though or possibly yellow.

raw aluminum is fine with me. You can paint them yourself if you prefer.

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 05:54 PM

If enough people want them I might get some yellow and black ceramic paint along with the red and offer different colors.

captainchaos 02-10-2009 07:55 PM

That's badass bro, you do some really nice work ;)

pzurek18 02-10-2009 09:09 PM

i would take a pair, in either black or red.
So these are the same things as the APE ccts besides their just homemade?

sorry about the dumb question

lazn 02-10-2009 09:22 PM

Something else that might also improve the product.. Later APE's included a o-ring below the loose nut to prevent oil weeping out through the threads. It just get squished, nothing fancy.. but keeps the engine clean.

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 09:23 PM

you are correct.

Im down on my luck lately and need to pay some medical bills so I figure why not.

They function 100% like the ape's do.

Truckinduc 02-10-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by lazn (Post 199959)
Something else that might also improve the product.. Later APE's included a o-ring below the loose nut to prevent oil weeping out through the threads. It just get squished, nothing fancy.. but keeps the engine clean.

I can do that too, good suggestion.

pzurek18 02-10-2009 09:35 PM

Well ya then if you said they work exactly and its 70$ shipped, i will definitley be interested in getting a pair for myself.

Thanks,
Pawel

LineArrayNut 02-10-2009 11:22 PM

count me in for the blue ones, lol! seriously, take paypal?

nothing 02-11-2009 04:14 AM

i may be in, how do these actually work?

Tweety 02-11-2009 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by nothing (Post 199992)
i may be in, how do these actually work?

You set the tension by threading the bolt in/out, and then lock it in place with the inner nut... The outer nut is just to make it easier turning the nut...

nothing 02-11-2009 05:08 AM

hmm, how do i know how much tension to put on the cam chain? my luck i'd tighten it too much and first start up things would go snap

Tweety 02-11-2009 05:19 AM

You start of by getting it fingertight (no tools) and start up the bike to idle... DO NOT REV!... then fiddle until it's as quiet as possible...

Then lock the nut and go for a warm-up ride... Once fully warmed up, you do the same routine...

The end result is that you get it right at operating temps, it will make a little noise when the bike is warming up...

I thing the consensus was that it was fully fingertight, then back of one turn... I wasn't that scientific... I did it by ear and feel...

Stevebis1 02-11-2009 06:39 AM

Count me in for a set too. Do you need a certain number before you make them?

Syclone 02-11-2009 07:40 AM

I'm in for a set

Stevebis1 02-11-2009 08:27 AM

Just took a closer look at the APE. Does anyone think there may be a hardness spec for the tensioner bolt? I'm just thinking what this might look like after 10k or 20k miles for the cam chain rubbing on it. Is a stainless bolt already that hard so there is no worry?

inderocker 02-11-2009 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Stevebis1 (Post 200024)
Just took a closer look at the APE. Does anyone think there may be a hardness spec for the tensioner bolt? I'm just thinking what this might look like after 10k or 20k miles for the cam chain rubbing on it. Is a stainless bolt already that hard so there is no worry?


The chain is running on a guide and will never touch the bolt.

Truckinduc 02-11-2009 08:56 AM

The head of the stainless bolt comes in contact with a steel insert in the cam chain guide. Nothing that touches the bolt really moves.

Ill take a pic of what I mean.

I would like to have people interested in 10 sets before I start to make them.


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