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What happened to this hawk?
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Came across this picture in another forum. Someone's got to get a kick out of this. Sorry if this is a repost.
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=72206 |
Is that the Mini-Hawk it looks like a lot is missing.
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The frame is missing.... Somebody built their own tubular frame?
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Nice front shock...??? WTF?
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Alternative front suspension... But where are the rads?
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Originally Posted by skokievtr
(Post 163416)
Alternative front suspension... But where are the rads?
Judging by the vented seat cowl, I'd say under the seat. |
It just looks so small in the picture,
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Originally Posted by inderocker
(Post 163417)
Judging by the vented seat cowl, I'd say under the seat.
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What happened is that someone did an extreme disservice to a Superhawk. That's like dressing your pitbull in a pink sweater- it just ain't right.
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Originally Posted by inderocker
(Post 163412)
Nice front shock...??? WTF?
Look's like more of a vibration dampener than a part of the suspension...IMHO. |
i don't think i'd be too keen on really romping around on that bike
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guess im the only one that loves it
would love to see more of it, and details |
It kinda look's like a cross between a street fighter and a super motard. Might be fun as a supermotard.:)
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homemade telelever
Originally Posted by Hawk9807
(Post 163428)
Look's like more of a vibration dampener than a part of the suspension...IMHO.
http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...s/logotel.jpegBMW Telelever and telescopic forks: which is better ? V. Cossalter Forces on the front suspension during braking The motorcycle front suspension during braking is acted on by two forces:
Fig. 1 Load transfer and braking force. Figure 2 shows the action of the load transfer and front braking force of the front suspension. The red line represents the path of the contact point (which is seen from a reference frame connected to the motorcycle) during the front suspension movement. The compression of the suspension depends on the angle between the direction of the resultant force and the direction of the suspension movement; there is maximum compression when they are parallel. The green vectors in the figure are the components of the load transfer and front braking force along the direction of suspension movement. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/02.gif Fig. 2 Force components compressing the front suspension. To obtain an anti-dive behaviour of the suspension it is necessary to reduce the value of the sum of the two green components; in other words, the direction of the suspension movement should be orthogonal to the resultant force. If the path were ortoghonal to the road plane, only the transfer load would act on the suspension, therefore the suspension would be partially anti-dive. On the other and if the path were ortoghonal to the resultant force the suspension would not be compressed, hence the suspension itself would be completely anti-dive. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/03.gif Fig. 3 Dive angle The angle between the resultant force and the path is an index of the kinematic anti-dive behaviour. When the index is 0°, the suspension has the maximum diving behaviour, with an angle value equal to 90° , the suspension is completely anti-dive. Telescopic forks Let us consider a motorcycle with a classical telescopic fork suspension. Only the front brake is used to stop the motorcycle. The ratio between the force compressing the springs and the front braking force is:This ratio depends mainly on the castor angle. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/04.gif Fig. 4 Motorcycle geometry with front fork. The next figure shows the force ratio for a motorcycle with the following geometric data: wheels radius Rr=297 mm; wheelbase p=1475 mm; rRatio mass centre height/ wheelbase h/p=0.5, offset d=30 mm. The maximum dive behaviour is obtained with a castor angle equal to about 63°; the decrease of the castor angle slightly improves the anti-dive behaviour of the telescopic forks (the normal castor angle ranges from 22° to 35°). http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/05.gif Fig. 5. Non dimensional compressing force versus castor angle. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...forksmovie.gif Fig. 6 Geometry animation. BMW Telelever This original front wheel suspension is based on a spatial mechanism RSPS that has two degrees of freedom. The link S-S can rotate around the revolute axis, which is defined by the centres of the spherical pairs; this movement represents the extra passive degree of freedom, that involves only one link of the mechanism in the movement and makes steering possible. The degree of freedom of the whole mechanism is used for the suspension movement. From this point of view the spatial mechanism can be considered a plane mechanism; this mechanism (four bar linkage RRPR) has four links connected by three revolute pairs and a prismatic pair. The Telelever's fork tubes do not contain any springs or dampers; in this way the inertia around the steering axis is lower if compared with that of the traditional telescopic fork. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/07.gif Fig.7 Telelever mechanism. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/08.gif Fig.8 Motorcycle with Telelever mechanism. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...levermovie.gif Fig. 9 Geometry animation. Comparison between BMW Telelever suspension and classical telescopic forks What kinematic characteristics would have the ideal front suspension? For example, during the braking:
Moreover, the limitation of the compression of the front fork is important for maintaining the trim of the motorcycle (to limit the forward pitch rotation). Finally, the wheelbase would not decrease in order to limit the transfer load. In the second case, while entering a curve, a small decrease of the trail is favourable because the high load on the front wheel requires more steering effort to set the motorcycle in the corner. In the following figures the variations of the castor angle, the trail, the wheelbase, for two motorcycle with different front suspension are shown. The data used for the Telelever, which refers to BMW R1100R, probably are not quite exact, but the general behaviour would not change dramatically. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/10.gif Fig. 10. Castor angle versus fork movement. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/11.gif Fig. 11. Trail versus fork movement. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/12.gif Fig. 12. Normal trail angle versus fork movement. http://www.dinamoto.it/DINAMOTO/on-l...20forks/13.gif Fig. 13. Wheelbase versus fork movement. :phatyo: |
Didn't see where it attached to the forks to begin with. That is pretty sweet.
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I especially like the peg feelers.
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Holy shit if that's for real and it works the skills are badass. I wonder how much it weighs...
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Re-found link to the original thread where the picture came from.
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=72206 |
Originally Posted by skokievtr
(Post 163421)
Either you're eyes are better than mine... But I don't see intakes, and that may just be a painted seat cowl cover rather than a very small exhaust vent...
The top of the seat cowl is vented. You can see at the back portion of the cowl that the vented part is slightly recessed. |
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