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masonjarz Dec 21, 2009 06:35 PM

Is there a "best year" for the VTR?
 
Hi,

New member here. I am about to buy a VTR and am looking at a 2000, a 2003 and a 2005.

I know there were some changes in 2001 (tank and instruments, etc) and I don't think there is a lot of difference between the 2003 and the 2005.

Is there a preferred year among the three I am considering and, if so, why?

Thanks!

mikstr Dec 21, 2009 06:40 PM

Well, I can tell you that the metallic midnight blue offered on the 99 Firestorm version is the fastest colour if that helps :)

killer5280 Dec 21, 2009 06:46 PM

2009, almost 2010.

nuhawk Dec 21, 2009 06:59 PM

Micky gets delusional during the long winters in Canada. But he is quite helpful.

The fastest color was Italian Red as manufactured in 1998. There are more fast red Superhawks from this year than any other.

However, this is not the preferred model. At the moment I can't remember but in either 2001 or 2003 the instrument panel went digital. You get a clock and a gas gauge. And the sending units to make this possible.

My '97 Interceptor has a gas gauge and a clock WTF happened to the Superhawk at Honda?

If I had it to do all over again - and I won't - period - build out another stock Superhawk. If I did, I would start with an 03-05.

mikstr Dec 21, 2009 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by nuhawk (Post 247687)
Micky gets delusional during the long winters in Canada.

And just think, winter has only just begun here......

killer5280 Dec 21, 2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by mikstr (Post 247696)
And just think, winter has only just begun here......

I'm thinkin' The Shining.

captainchaos Dec 21, 2009 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by nuhawk (Post 247687)
The fastest color was Italian Red as manufactured in 1998. There are more fast red Superhawks from this year than any other.

Listen to Doug, he knows what he's talking about :)

inderocker Dec 21, 2009 09:24 PM

You really can't go wrong with any year... I would just choose the cleanest/best maintained of the three.

Here is a write up the difference through the years...
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=13982

VTRsurfer Dec 21, 2009 09:47 PM

+1 on what indie said.

The '05 in Titanium, or Stealth Gray as I like to call it, sometimes flies under the radar as far as cops are concerned. But my favorite color is the Tahitian Blue, as I think it's called, from '03. They were available new when I bought my '05, but my wife had a Metallic Blue Kawi, so I went with the '05 which hadn't been sitting at the dealer for 2 years.

Just watch out for earlier than '03 or '02 models that haven't had the regulator/rectifier or cam chain tensioners replaced.

Bottom line is just buy one, because you'll love it.

Little_Horse Dec 21, 2009 09:48 PM

If I remember right somewhere on here I read that 97 to 98 they were the fastest years do to the fact that honda tyically hand pic and assemble the bikes for optimimum power during its debute year. Supposedly that is why reviews of the hawk when it first came out show 1 to 2 hp better then a year or two later. At least that is what I have heard.

VTS Dec 21, 2009 09:58 PM

Tell us more about the 03' and 05' in question.
Are they bone stock, if not what do they have?
Miles?

Need more info.:D

Egg nog in your camel pack? Tried it, don't recommend it.
Just get a cupholder, heated if you are inclined.

ranchomice Dec 22, 2009 01:27 AM

I was gonna ask about the 03 and 05 myself! lol
By the way, y'all call each other by name and noone else knows who the heck you're talking about!
Happy eggnogging!

Starbucks Fueled Dec 22, 2009 07:41 AM

+1 If the 05 is Titanium color. Best stock color IMHO. Doesn't raise any eyebrows from the PO PO.

AJ

Mike996 Dec 22, 2009 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Starbucks Fueled (Post 247738)
+1 If the 05 is Titanium color. Best stock color IMHO. Doesn't raise any eyebrows from the PO PO.

AJ


But you also blend into the highway / road more, making it more difficult for cars to see. Thats just my opinion of course.

mhaisten Dec 22, 2009 08:15 AM

From what I could tell when buying my 99 last month, the only real differance is the guage cluster. Pick the one that has been best cared for and has most of the common "required" mods done. You can get used to any color. You will spend money on these mods if they are not already done.

Just one opinion.

Stevebis1 Dec 22, 2009 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by mikstr (Post 247683)
Well, I can tell you that the metallic midnight blue offered on the 99 Firestorm version is the fastest colour if that helps :)

Midnight blue HA LOL:crackup:
COLOUR:rotf:
Yellow has proven it's superiority time and time again. If the 2000 is yellow that's the bike to own.

masonjarz Dec 22, 2009 09:31 AM

Thanks for the posts thus far.

Sorry, I should have given more detail.

2000: Turquoise, Yosh Pipes, Helibars, new x-ring chain, new sprockets, rusty gas tank (big surprise as rest of bike seems good and the owner {albeit a second owner who has owned for 1 season} seems very mechanically inclined), needs tires, 18k miles $3,800

2003: Blue, stock except for pipes, brand new tires, 4k miles The only downside is it is the farthest away and will be a big hassle to pick up $5,200

2005: This is the most sketchy. No mods, 6k miles, re-painted blue (owner claims he did not like Titanium), 1 allegedly minor accident I exhaust can painted black, some fairing damage (claimed to be cracks caused by moving the bike from one location to another) new tires $3,800

Lay your wisdom on me!

poppazuti Dec 22, 2009 09:48 AM

Well the '03 seems the least sketchy... How much is fixing all the probs the others have worth to you? Would you rather have something that's ready to go right out of the box?

mhaisten Dec 22, 2009 09:55 AM

2005 sounds very scary to me.

Stevebis1 Dec 22, 2009 10:05 AM

Welcome to the forum!

The pricing is high across the board. Of the three the 2000 seems ok, but for what you described it is $1000 too much.
The 03 sounds good, but the market would put this at $4K, and i agree the 05 sounds fishy.
Good luck!

sweetriden76 Dec 22, 2009 10:13 AM

I gave 2300 for my 98 with two brothers pipes, new tires, chain, sprockets, but it has 35,000miles and was a little beat up...but maybe that will help give you an Idea on the prices they are going for...

inderocker Dec 22, 2009 11:26 AM

The 2000 sounds like the best one condition-wise, but you could do better price wise. The 03 is over-priced... the 05 sounds beat. Whats your location? Judging by the color of that 2000 I'm guessing you are in Canada...? But then again, the '05 was Titanium... :confused:

lazn Dec 22, 2009 11:47 AM

A quick search finds lots on CL across the country for less:
http://craiglook.com/all.html?s=1&q=vtr1000&p=2

Bytes Dec 22, 2009 12:49 PM

How long have you been looking? I kept checking our local classifieds since September and finally bought mine (98 Red... the best and fastest color) a few weeks ago. You are hardly ever hurt by taking a few months of seeing the bikes asking prices and checking their condition. I would highly recommend reading as much about the bike on this forum as you possibly can. You will find out a lot about things to look for. I don't know what the weather is like where you're at but if its cold as hell there really isn't any hurry. Good luck!

Dnagmour Dec 22, 2009 12:52 PM

I paid $4k for my stock (and showroom condition) '03 last year. And that was too high but it was too nice to pass up. Only had 5800 miles on it. And pass on the '05. Very scary.

finepooch Dec 22, 2009 02:58 PM

confucius say "patients bring better deal"

those three sound high.

check this site:
http://www2.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi
cycle trader.com has lots of bikes too.

tbartley Dec 22, 2009 03:02 PM

Another +1 on passing the '05. As already stated above, the prices seem a bit high for this time of year and look around a bit more. Keep a check on the classifieds here. I bought my 01 last Jan/Feb. Luckily we had a warm enough day (upper 30s) for me to take it down the street and back. Got a good price on it then, too. Welcome and good luck to ya findin' yer hawk.

masonjarz Dec 22, 2009 04:53 PM

Thanks, everyone, both for the advice and for the welcome to the board. This seems like a quality site.
As I said above, the 2000 has a rusty gas tank. Is this common with Super Hawks?

lazn Dec 22, 2009 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by masonjarz (Post 247812)
Thanks, everyone, both for the advice and for the welcome to the board. This seems like a quality site.
As I said above, the 2000 has a rusty gas tank. Is this common with Super Hawks?

It is common with any bike that is stored for long periods with no gas in the tank. It isn't a known issue with our bikes though.

Some POR15 should take care of it if needed and applied properly, as to if it is worth the effort of cleaning that tank is up to you.

inderocker Dec 22, 2009 05:12 PM

We're just saying that seems to be the best choice of the three... not a sure fire winner. Rusty tanks are mendable... have it throughly cleaned by a radiator shop first before using a cream liner, this will make all of the difference in the world.


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