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Death Cattle 05-05-2008 08:42 PM

superhawk vs. smaller cc bike
 
what is the advantage of having a bike like ours opposed to a 750 or a similarly sized bike? im not talking about gas mileage or efficiency or weight or anything like that. does a superhawk have that much more power, or is it just mainly torque where the superhawk exceeds?

Veles 05-05-2008 08:49 PM

the torque and the feel of a v-twin mainly, a 750 will likely put out more power and be lighter but a SH will have more usable power and more fun to ride IMO

joshuatest 05-05-2008 08:55 PM

well lots of that depends on the particular bike...

a 600cc Inline 4 is now making as much/more HP than our bikes, however the torque curve is WAY different... Most Inline 4's, you have to keep the bike upwards of 9-10K rpm to keep the good power, as with ours, your peak is in the 5K's.. this means less shifting to stay revved up, which for the twisty roads is great...

however after riding a SV650, which is also a v-twin, but smaller, I realized how underpowered it really felt.. while it rides great, feels nice, it just doesn't have enough kick...

I think the Hawk is a great all around bike because its a lot narrower than the I4's because of the way the engine sits in the frame, which makes it feel better when trowing it into corners in my opinion. Because of the ability to get power at low rpm's, you can shoot out of corners much faster, or with less effort you don't find yourself downshifting coming into and out of every turn.

On the track, the I4's aren't bad i guess... your all or nothing all the time, so staying in high rpm's isn't bad.. but for everyday street riding, having power at low rpm's when you want it is worth its weight in gold...

RK1 05-05-2008 09:08 PM

In olden times, a 750 really was a "bigger" bike than a 500 (longer, wider, heavier) and a 1000 was bigger than a 750. Now the difference between say, the GSX-R600-750-1000 is pretty much engine displacement and powerband, and a VFR800 with ABS weighs more than a 1400cc Ninja.

LineArrayNut 05-05-2008 09:11 PM

my '90 zx-7 handled better than my birdy. but it was heavy, had to rev the crap out of it and needed mods to be as quick as i wanted. the shawk is better in the motor feel, torque is where it's at as far as i'm concerned. ymmv.

rbrais 05-06-2008 06:46 AM

It all comes down to what you like. Like the previous posts said, the shawk has a ton of torque. It can't match the hp of the big inline 4's, but if you like torqe this is the bike for you. I like the bike because it is different from most of the bikes out there in appearence and sound. Got to love the THUNDER!
:evillaugh:

superbling 05-06-2008 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Death Cattle (Post 163127)
what is the advantage of having a bike like ours opposed to a 750 or a similarly sized bike?

A 750 what? Gixxer, Virago, Pacific Coast (800), Magna, NightHawk, Katana, duc 750SS? Lot's of bikes for different wants and needs.

Death Cattle 05-06-2008 10:07 AM

not really anything too specific. comparing to the more powerful 750's. i think the next bike ill get is an RC8. even if i have to go to the uk to get it.

PRTSMN 05-06-2008 10:16 AM

THE HAWK GETS ALOT LOOKS HERE NOT TO MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT IS. I LIKE BIENG DIFFERENT THAT WHAT SHE IS FOR SURE.

Moto Man 05-06-2008 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Death Cattle (Post 163209)
not really anything too specific. comparing to the more powerful 750's. i think the next bike ill get is an RC8. even if i have to go to the uk to get it.

Wait for the KTM Venom. It will be an RC8 with less plastic and hopefully cheaper. Both will be sold here in the near future. you know its a 1190cc bike right? Way north of 750cc.

Death Cattle 05-06-2008 11:29 AM

i definitely know that its 1190cc's. it also has 155 horsepower making it the most powerful v-twin on the market. i think it would fun as hell to ride. i havent heard of the venom though. do you know when it will be released?

Moto Man 05-06-2008 12:36 PM

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Venom should be released the end of this year. Here is a link to some info...
http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclen..._rc8/2149.html

And how it might look in black...

happytrack44 05-06-2008 01:53 PM

The hawk has presence and style. It demands attention audibly and is a pleasure to ride.
Don't tell too many people cause somebody has to ride the I4's

Death Cattle 05-06-2008 06:39 PM

damn, thats nice looking. im not sure which one i like better though. probably the rc8. but venom sounds cool. haha

LineArrayNut 05-06-2008 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Moto Man (Post 163226)
Venom should be released the end of this year. Here is a link to some info...
http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclen..._rc8/2149.html

And how it might look in black...

not sure i'm a fan of the v-strom front end:rolleyes:...nope, definately, not a fan...:(

http://photos.motorcycle-usa.com/2008_KTM_RC8_9.jpg

Hawkrider 05-07-2008 06:25 PM

To partially answer your question, when riding my wife's 05 CBR600RR I ALWAYS find myself in the wrong gear on that bike. It handles about as well as the VTR and is light as hell.

Tonyizcool1 05-07-2008 06:55 PM

That RC8 is pretty cool, I like the Aprilia milles though.....Probably my next bike.

Well, I have an 1984 700sc nighthawk and it always seems like I have to keep it revved up pretty high to get usable power out of it. It is quick, just you have to rev it. I like how the VTR has power pretty much everywhere.

Almost any sportish motorcycle is going to be quick.....how fast do you want to go? Just find the one that works for you and keep on riding.


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