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georgiadawg Apr 24, 2012 06:46 PM

rc51
 
Thinking about buying a rc51, do they have the same problems with the cct's as the superhawk?

mikstr Apr 24, 2012 06:49 PM

no, they have gear-driven cams....

georgiadawg Apr 24, 2012 06:55 PM

Ok thanks, I didn't know that.

georgiadawg Apr 24, 2012 06:58 PM

mikstr did you do all the mods that you have listed yourself?

mikstr Apr 24, 2012 07:20 PM

Many, but definitely not all (for a few reasons, notably lack of specialized tools and decent work space, also the skills and knowledge for the more advanced and critical stuff). I am more of a tinkerer with a great deal of curiosity to understand how everything works and a keen desire to push the envelope.....

georgiadawg Apr 24, 2012 07:25 PM

have you put it on a dyno, if so what was the rear wheel hp?

mikstr Apr 24, 2012 07:29 PM

Immediate post-rebuild run was 122 bhp and 77 lb-ft. I have made a few mods since (most important being re-timing the cams, but also airbox mods, HRC ignition, DLC-coated tappets, Krankvent sump breather) and it pulls noticeably stronger now, leading me to realistically estimate it must be in the area of 130 and 80 or more lb-ft now...... A definite sleeper....

georgiadawg Apr 24, 2012 07:53 PM

very nice, a sleeper for sure.

20_rc51_00 Apr 25, 2012 06:52 PM

rc51 kicks ass! I have one. only prob ever was a freyed wire that was hard to detect because of a relay that also happened to go at the same time, it confounded my diagnostics greatly...

rc51 is pretty easy to work on.

georgiadawg Apr 29, 2012 03:27 PM

20_rc51_00 Do you like it better than the superhawk?

20_rc51_00 Apr 29, 2012 08:07 PM

They are 2 totally diff bikes.

The RC is a beast on the track, and makes you feel great. The handling of the hawk doesn't even compare.... but then again I don't think you should perhaps compare them in this regard. People with more experience then myself on many other bikes say that it has the best brakes that have come stock on a bike, they really do perform well, hence they are on the whawk at this moment. suspension is decent in stock form, perfectly fine for my ~185lb weight geared.

I have not had any reliablity issues with the hawk, thus they are both great imo. 70K miles on the hawk and 20K on the rc...

The hawk has a bit more torque down low but the torque and the hp of the RC in the mid+ is no comparison.

I can't comment on the ergo, it's been a while since I've thrown a leg over the rc... (living elsewhere but soon to be reunited)

georgiadawg May 1, 2012 06:56 PM

I have not had any problems with my superhawk so far, its been great. I'm debating on selling the superhawk and getting the rc51.

georgiadawg May 12, 2012 09:20 PM

bought a rc51 today and love it so far. The ergo is a little harsh compared to the superhawk, but it is fun.

20_rc51_00 May 13, 2012 07:18 AM

nice congrats! I miss the RC.

check here for the most insane mods. durbahn.de the guy reinvented the RC

also if you are interested in a 1300cc mod you can check here Motorrad Tuning von KAINZINGER - The Tuning Company :kneelking:

1971allchaos May 13, 2012 07:52 PM

G-Dawg, congrads on your find.. Which year RC-51 did you buy.. Has 20-RC51 said TOTAL different bikes (RC-51, and the S-hawk) I own a few of the RC-51s and more than that in S-hawks.. Please specify your opinion of Ergo?
You can work the suspension on both bikes, as mine have a be amazed in handling.
Yet There were more than a few top magazines articles written on the performance of the RC-51 brakes change the sprockets(15 frt, 43 rear) to take care of the low RPM opertunities (that the S-hawk already has)
Ask - if you have any questions, or needs of parts..

georgiadawg May 18, 2012 08:00 PM

It is a 2004 . It is definitely a different bike than the superhawk. As far as the ergo the superhawk is more comfortable it seems from what little I have had the chance to ride the rc51 so far. the chain and sprockets were changed just before I bought the bike to 15frt, 41 rear, how much better would the 43 rear make it? When its time to change again I may go to that combination. What exhaust would you suggest for the rc51, slipon? Thanks everyone.

1971allchaos May 19, 2012 08:15 AM

WWWWellll, By popular opinions -Sato slip-ons make the most power and are very well made. And very hard to find- Sato stopped production of exhaust components in 2010.
Akrapovic, Yoshimura(RS3), are both very well made, and sound pleasant- And plentiful to purchase.
IF you like making noise, with no benefit.. there is always Two sisters, GPR, D&D(Decibel Dominators), etc...
Search RC51 forum, Speedzilla, RogueRC51 for members selling there exhausts..

Both of my RCs(2003,2006) have the Sato slip-ons. 2003 has the Ti /with PCIII , 2006 has the carbon(to match the Blk) with the PCIII . Both PCIII were programmed by Mike at D.Kyle racing to match the slip-ons...

georgiadawg May 28, 2012 12:37 PM

The sato's are hard to find, I may try the ladybirds but I'm not sure yet.

1971allchaos May 28, 2012 07:16 PM

G-dawg.. I have a few other RC51 riders, that I ride with that have the ladybirds.. Best way to get a set is to contact simonkobejapan on RC51 forum...
The ladybirds are well made.. and seem to have good power benefits.. Just a bit louder than the Satos..
Ladybirds would be my first choice , only if -I needed a set(exhaust)

badboyrr May 29, 2012 10:06 AM

I bought my RC-51, had to have another twin. Bought a Superhawk! ;-)

archaicguy May 31, 2012 02:46 PM

How is the performance of the RC51? Our Hawks are comparable to modern 600cc bikes but how does the RC51 stack up?

20_rc51_00 Jun 1, 2012 06:43 AM

RC51 was faster on the track with me on it then my comparable skill level friend on a 2007 gsrx750. The RC would walk away out of the corners and couldn't keep up on the straight. Much more then the 600 little more maybe the same as a 750, but I guess it depends who is riding.

1971allchaos Jun 1, 2012 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by archaicguy (Post 334445)
How is the performance of the RC51? Our Hawks are comparable to modern 600cc bikes but how does the RC51 stack up?

You really have to think about,the age of the RC-51. Stock RCs were 135hp at rear wheel. Which when Honda released the bike(12 years ago) was pretty good.
But technology hasn't stopped... 1 liter bike puts about 50hp more (170-185 hp), and suspension has improved..
AS stated above- You can buy an improved, more powerful 1 liter bike now.. Just doesn't mean that it is needed or can be used on the street..

Tweety Jun 2, 2012 01:17 AM

And a slightly worked over RC will easily put around 170 to the rearwheel, and make mincemeat out of most newer bikes... ;)

20_rc51_00 Jun 2, 2012 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 334634)
And a slightly worked over RC will easily put around 170 to the rearwheel, and make mincemeat out of most newer bikes... ;)

can you show where there is a 170 RC? I have never heard of any more then around 140.

Tweety Jun 2, 2012 07:23 AM

Sure... 55.661411,13.361167 - Google Maps

You do know the SP2 has 136 bhp at the crank as stock? So getting around 140 to the wheel isn't even a great challenge?

georgiadawg Jun 2, 2012 08:49 AM

I can tell you that the performance of the rc51 is enough for my abilities. I don't need any more lol.

Wolverine Jun 2, 2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 334665)

You're going to need to fly me there so I can see it for myself because I don't believe you. :D:D:D :eek:

Tweety Jun 3, 2012 12:58 AM

Well... My widdle airplain doesn't have the fuel capacity to go across the big puddle... Otherwise I'd pop over and pick you up... How about I supply coffee and cookies when you drop by? Or even a bed if you like...

20_rc51_00 Jun 3, 2012 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 334665)
Sure... 55.661411,13.361167 - Google Maps

You do know the SP2 has 136 bhp at the crank as stock? So getting around 140 to the wheel isn't even a great challenge?

Any light you can shed on the type of work that has gone into this bike? Pics?

I just might come see it in person one day, I have friends in Danmark. Perhaps a new one in Sweden too.:D


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