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KLR996 06-22-2017 10:36 PM

Need help/confirmation of chain sprocket stuff.
 
Putting a new chain on, never done it before. I'm confident it's within my skill level (the info I've read here boosts said confidence).

That said, I'm looking for confirmation that I'm on the right track, parts wise. I'm looking at:

RK Racing GB530GXW 106-Links Gold XW-Ring Chain with Connecting Link

I'm trying to find a solid deal on steel sprockets 15t front and 41t rear (a known combo as I've ridden it in the past and enjoyed it). I know brands like AFAM and Renthal. What about JT and Sunstar? Care to point me towards the smokin' deal I'm obviously missing?

Thanks.

Wolverine 06-23-2017 05:25 AM

https://sep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-6204750...rting-at-6.gif
Splurge and go with a SuperSprox set. https://www.supersproxusa.com/products.php?cat=1067800

You plan to rivet or clip it?

KLR996 06-23-2017 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 402860)

The SS kit is nice looking, but I'm trying to keep costs down while getting good strong parts.

I know folks have strongly held beliefs about which is best, in my mind rivets are the way to go.

Wolverine 06-23-2017 06:24 AM

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Agree. Do you have the metal spacers to use?
Attachment 21213

KLR996 06-23-2017 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 402863)
Agree. Do you have the metal spacers to use?
https://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_1109.jpg

I don't. I'm picking up a chain breaking/riveting tool, but I don't see that it comes with them.

xeris 06-23-2017 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 402860)

That's what I wanted when I did a recent drive refresh. Same as KRL996 said, I tried to keep costs down, so I went with JT front and rear. Says "Made In Japan", how not good could that be? Chain was an RK GB530GXW. Strangely the 110 link was the cheapest of the lengths when I bought mine.
The original chain was an RK also.
Is this the one?
Best deal I've seen. Grab it before the price goes up!
Spend the money you save on the sprockets to get a quality chain tool. The JT tool is excellent.

smokinjoe73 06-23-2017 08:20 PM

I think I went with similar stuff to xeris but I did the 520 conversion. It makes the bike quicker since its lighter.

I know sprocket specialists usually has good deals.

Wolverine 06-24-2017 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by xeris (Post 402865)
I went with JT front and rear. Says "Made In Japan", how not good could that be?

I have JT on my VTR too. Can't go wrong there.

xeris 06-24-2017 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 402863)
Agree. Do you have the metal spacers to use?
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d8...n/IMG_1109.jpg

Well feck, how important is this shim??

KLR996 06-24-2017 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by xeris (Post 402891)
Well feck, how important is this shim??

I can see and measure the importance, but outside of making them, I've no idea hot to get 'em! Can't seem to find them anywhere.

Not that it's holding me up. Thanks for showing me the Supersprox, Wolverine... I thought I had my sprocket decisions made. Now I gotta have one'a those fancy bastards! ;)

KLR996 06-24-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xeris (Post 402865)
Is this the one?
https://www.amazon.com/RK-Racing-Cha...+XW-Ring+Chain
Best deal I've seen. Grab it before the price goes up!
Spend the money you save on the sprockets to get a quality chain tool. The JT tool is excellent.

That's the one... only it's $76 and change now!! I'm gonna try to get a price change refund from Amazon when it arrives. Four bucks is four bucks!


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smokinjoe73 06-24-2017 05:33 PM

Ive never used shims and seen countless other racers and riders never use them.

They are neat looking and cool idea but unless you crush the thing not needed.

The proof would be all my master links last really well as far as mileage and years.

Wolverine 06-24-2017 07:30 PM

Well shit Joe, seems you're just pissing in my cornflakes...

I do a lot of chains. It's easy to slide them in there, compress the rivet and move on. Quick and easy, perfect spacing for the o-rings. They come with some chains, in with the master link.


Momma always said...

Wolverine 06-24-2017 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by xeris (Post 402891)
Well feck, how important is this shim??

It's not that important. But, you can simply slide 'em in there, do the deed and have perfect spacing for the o-rings, every time.
































https://cdn.meme.am/instances/57829794.jpg

smokinjoe73 06-25-2017 02:27 AM

:DYou didn't notice where I said how cool they are and useful they seem?

Geesh.

Don't look at me Bob Marley, I didn't shoot the sheriff....

Just posting up info I thought was relevant to the poor guy wanting to actually do this job but worried he cant without the spacer.:D

Wolverine 06-25-2017 06:35 AM

So, do you use this method:
http://www.armyofdarkness.com/images...er_400x300.jpg

And this one?
https://www.southbayriders.com/forum...hments/433715/


If you have a good relationship with your local shop, they may loan a pair out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EK-520-MVXZ-...-/371248282782


Can't think of a good comeback for the John Brown reference, give me some time, lol!

smokinjoe73 06-25-2017 01:01 PM

Yeah those calipers are pretty cheap to buy online. Plus they have many uses. I suppose you could use washers if you knew the right thickness.

Aquasnake 07-29-2017 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 402863)
Agree. Do you have the metal spacers to use?
Attachment 21213

From what I have experienced recently, it seems that these spacers no longer come with the EK chains or master links. :(

So Wolverine, so that I can make some kind of replacement, how thick are these spacers?

Wolverine 07-30-2017 03:48 AM

I could send you a set to use. Since I don't have enough to send to everyone you'll have to mail 'em back, or to the next guy that chimes in. I won't be able to give you a measurement till I get back to the shop. I'm more than willing to do this for anyone that wants to use them.

Aquasnake 08-13-2017 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 403410)
I could send you a set to use. Since I don't have enough to send to everyone you'll have to mail 'em back, or to the next guy that chimes in. I won't be able to give you a measurement till I get back to the shop. I'm more than willing to do this for anyone that wants to use them.

Hey there Wolverine! PM sent your way. :thumbsup:

Kelevra 08-14-2017 08:05 AM

I installed that RK chain recently, (+sprockets, +2 in the rear). Great stuff.

E.Marquez 08-22-2017 03:36 PM

That little shim,,,nice Idea, never seen one till today.

I have used the clips from a clip type chain to use as spacers, but its more of a pain than needed.. I think I may have over squished 1 master link in about 40 years and pretty sure it was because the press tool did not seat correctly on the rivet (IOW operator error)

THAT SAID...damned if Im not going to make a set of one piece shims and toss in the chain tool kit.

Wolverine 08-27-2017 08:01 PM

I sent him a set. If you want to copy them just holla, I'll have him send them your way when finished.
The other week I did 3 chains in one day. They are super quick, precise and fool proof.

kenmoore 08-28-2017 01:50 AM

I used the caliper method however I would prefer a shim.

These are unobtainium here in Oz that's why I used the calipers.

I'm sure I over squashed the last link I did as there was a tight spot in my chain at the joining link.

I noticed how much smoother and quieter the new chain is and put it down to using the calipers.

Just my two cents worth!

xeris 08-26-2020 04:53 AM

Anyone know where to get one of these? Or what thickness the shim is?


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 402863)
Agree. Do you have the metal spacers to use?
Attachment 21213


Wolverine 08-26-2020 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by xeris (Post 412812)
Anyone know where to get one of these? Or what thickness the shim is?

I could take some measurements when I get home. I think I have a pair there. If not, I could do it next time I get to the shop.

Wolverine 08-26-2020 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by xeris (Post 412812)
Anyone know where to get one of these? Or what thickness the shim is?

I think I saw them included with some master link kits on eBay a while back when someone else was asking.

xeris 08-26-2020 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Wolverine (Post 412813)
I could take some measurements when I get home. I think I have a pair there. If not, I could do it next time I get to the shop.

Thanks, if you could put a measure on it that would be great.

Wolverine 08-26-2020 06:39 PM

Sorry, I can not find these here @ my place. And I'm not sure when I'll get back to the bike shop. I have been working long hours @ my daily and haven't been in for a while. I did do some google searching and could only find the spacers with a 520 pitch EK rivet master link. Looks like now they have a wire style.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sup...829c57a8e9.jpg


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