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joshuatest 10-30-2008 12:51 PM

HID Kits available online
 
Ok... So i've read threads where people are making there own HID headlight retrofits. However, I don't know the first thing about doing it, nor do I really even want to get into it.

I live in a very rural area, and riding at night on these roads, my light just isn't good enough, even on brights. I am thinking about getting one of those HID kits available online.

Something similar to this.. http://www.made-in-china.com/showroo...-12V-55W-.html

So.... I know I know, its not as good as some of the self made stuff people are making... But will these actually work? I know i still have the reclector type headlight housing, but in theory, this should increase the amount of lighting, and i can get the cool blue look out of them too right?

i don't want to completely waste my money if these are a joke. but any amount of gain in lighting would be worth it to me.

What do you think?

Byrdman 10-30-2008 12:57 PM

i was wounding the same thing. :confused:
i found this site for motorcycles

http://www.hidstores.com/store/motor...n-kits-c6.html

Tweety 10-30-2008 02:44 PM

Have a look here... https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...&highlight=hid... Basicly a lowbeam only kit might be a reasonable upgrade... (Meaning you only have lowbeam, but a very good lowbeam)

A high/low beam kit like in the second link will probably be a waste of time and money... The highbeam is usually completely scattered and basicly useless, the low beam is "OK"... but will probably annoy oncoming traffic...

Or you can get a relay kit... http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/products.html which is better value for money...

joshuatest 10-30-2008 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 187142)

Or you can get a relay kit... http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/products.html which is better value for money...

tweety,

could you explain this in more detail? I'm apparently stupid.. lol no seriously. what would i need from them, and in addition to a kit like i was talking about, or a seperate kit from them??

thanks

Tweety 10-30-2008 03:45 PM

The relay kit is instead of the HID... The stock wiring on the hawk sucks... Quite literally... I measured on mine and had slightly less than 12V at the bulb connector, with 13.5V at the other end, and around 12V with 14V going in...


Light output, or luminous intensity drops off faster than the voltage drops because of the relationship between the two.

100% voltage = 100% intensity
95% voltage = 83% intensity
90% voltage = 67% intensity
85% voltage = 53% intensity

A H4 bulb is designed to operate near the 14V your alternator puts out. If you are only getting 12V from the battery when the lights are on, you will only be producing 1/2 of the possible light output.
Taken from Hella's website... 12V is about 85% of spec voltage... That's half of your current bulb unused...

The relay kit (you'll need the top H4 one at $47.95) gives you full power to the bulb... noticably better light for less money than the cheapo HID kits... I'd recommend that, or going for it and doing a full retro-fit...

joshuatest 10-30-2008 05:34 PM

Thanks man. Let me ask, will I get more light out of a low beam hid conversion than stock type h4 on brights? I'm ok with loosing the brights if the low beam hid will provide more light on dark back roads. We live WAY out and there are no streetlight and roads don't have lines on them. Wouldn't a cheap hid be better for that?

Byrdman 10-30-2008 08:20 PM

Or you can get a relay kit... http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/products.html which is better value for money...[/quote]


Which one do you recommend. i was looking at the H4 Heavy Duty Single 'Dual Beam' Headlight Relay Kits (LO beam on with HI). he said there is a risk of melting the headlight, is that a problem for the Superhawk?

Tweety 10-31-2008 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Byrdman (Post 187189)

Or you can get a relay kit... http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/products.html which is better value for money...

Which one do you recommend. i was looking at the H4 Heavy Duty Single 'Dual Beam' Headlight Relay Kits (LO beam on with HI). he said there is a risk of melting the headlight, is that a problem for the Superhawk?


With a stock wattage bulb no... with a high wattage bulb it's definetly possible...

Tweety 10-31-2008 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by joshuatest (Post 187168)
Thanks man. Let me ask, will I get more light out of a low beam hid conversion than stock type h4 on brights? I'm ok with loosing the brights if the low beam hid will provide more light on dark back roads. We live WAY out and there are no streetlight and roads don't have lines on them. Wouldn't a cheap hid be better for that?

I'd say that a H4 with full voltage on high or a lowbeam HID of dubios quality would probably be about equal, more light with the HID but also a sharper cut-of with less reach (or adjusted "too high" and blinding)... Not comparable with a HID highbeam at all...

handkaudio 10-31-2008 03:24 AM

I have actually thought this over, my low beam kit is plenty for me, I would sell my hi/lo beam kit pretty reasonable if you interested? Just pm me, thanks!


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