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seb421 02-02-2009 08:49 AM

FUEL WHAT FUEL??
 
I recently Made the Switch from Moto-x and Enduro to Road bikes, i did own a Suzuki RM250 and a Honda CRF 450 both fantastic, but the honda was something else!

i wanted a bike that had presence on the road and that sounded like it would scare the infirm, women and children.

i Love the V-Twin Thump so and was given a Honda Firestorm to fix and use, im only 23 i wanted the SP1 but the insurance wouldnt touch me. so the firestorm it was then!

after Going out for a blast as you do, i was astonished to see the reserve light so soon!

why is this Twin so poor on fuel?
are all twin so poor on fuel?

This is my only means of transport and i had no idea it would only get me 30 miles to the gallon, im a student and work part time. is there any mods i can easly do to alow it to use less fuel when i dont want to be opening up the throttle (other than not actuly opening up the throttle)

i want to be able to enjoy this bike but also not to have to sell it and get a 600. i love giving it a blast on the B roads but when im not blasting it is there anything that can simply be done when its not being thrassed to alow for better MPG?

LONG LIVE THE TWIN!

cameron 02-02-2009 10:03 AM

best advise to save fuel would be to baby the throttle. these bikes just arent going to get great mpg,they have the biggest carbs honda ever made so im told. so basically 30mph isnt so bad my friends with 600 super sports dont get much if any better mileage. i know my hawk is always thirsty i say drink up as i roll on the gas.

HawkFanatic 02-02-2009 10:12 AM

Check what size sprockets it came with, most SH riders (or at least I) have changed the rear to a 43 or 44 tooth and the front down to a 15 tooth. I believe stock is 16/40, but that twin is so powerful you could probably go to a 17/38 without any problems.


I have 15/43 and I am very strong wristed, I get about 25mpg if I am lucky.

Byrdman 02-02-2009 10:18 AM

Well the superhawk/firestroms have really small gas tanks, even thought I think you have a 19 liter instead of 16(which is what superhawk's have), and two really big 48mm crabs (biggest one that Honda has put on a street bike). So, gas goes really quick if you open the throttle. But it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to take. :)

E.Marquez 02-02-2009 12:03 PM

One of the smallest tanks, and the largest carbs ever put on an OEM Honda.. Add in it's a blast to ride... This is not an econo cruiser... It's a fun sport bike.

divingindaytona 02-02-2009 01:25 PM

Check that the carb's are synced.

On the slab I can get low 40's, if I stay out of it (with stock sprockets).

FRANKSVTR 02-02-2009 01:38 PM

I have seen 50mpg before on a roadtrip going 65 with stock gearing

RK1 02-02-2009 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by FRANKSVTR (Post 198400)
I have seen 50mpg before on a roadtrip going 65 with stock gearing

Me too.

RK1 02-02-2009 04:08 PM

seb421;

What are you paying for "petrol" now?

Over here we're back down under $2/gallon. I think that works out to about 3 litres for a pound sterling in U.K. speak.

Tweety 02-02-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by RK1 (Post 198411)
seb421;

What are you paying for "petrol" now?

Over here we're back down under $2/gallon. I think that works out to about 3 litres for a pound sterling in U.K. speak.

Which equates to you getting 3 liters at the about same price as I get one around here... Dammit... And this is the lowest gas price in Sweden since 2001...

And even better... It's in the middle of winter... I'm sooo happy :cry:

RK1 02-02-2009 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Tweety (Post 198412)
Which equates to you getting 3 liters at the about same price as I get one around here... Dammit... And this is the lowest gas price in Sweden since 2001...

And even better... It's in the middle of winter... I'm sooo happy :cry:

Yes, Tweety. Socialism is expensive for the self sufficient and productive.. You Vikings already know. Americans are about to find out!

MLB 02-02-2009 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by RK1 (Post 198424)
Yes, Tweety. Socialism is expensive for the self sufficient and productive.. You Vikings already know. Americans are about to find out!

Boo. :brownnoser:

RK1 02-03-2009 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by MLB (Post 198430)
Boo. :brownnoser:

Nah. You don't get it at all. If I wanted to "brown nose" Tweety, I'd tell him how wonderful it was that he paid 3X as much for gas to support the "needy", the aged and infirm, welfare whores who can't remember who fathered their children, newly arrived "immigrants" in support of "diversity" and "multiculturalism", the transgendered confused, etc.

If I wanted to "brown nose" you, I'd wax poetic about how wonderful it was to live where it's below freezing, snowing, and flat as a pancake in every direction for 500 miles.

seb421 02-03-2009 10:41 AM

Fuel isn't cheep at all here it's a joke! We pay from 88pence to a pound per L of standard unleaded petrol.
Bugga me those are big carbs!
I'm loveing the grunt tho it kills my mates R6 from the lights and out the corners. The bike is totaly standard, it's a 2000 model naught new in 2002 so I think it may have this smaller tank then.
One more thing how far will it genealy go or run for on the reserve light? I've done about 10 miles on the reserve light today and it's 2 miles to the petrol station will It cope? As I have still screwed the ass off it in reserve?
Hope I don't bin this bike it has a massive gin factor!

Byrdman 02-03-2009 10:50 AM

I use my trip, depending on how hard I ride I'll fuel up at 120miles which is about 190km

I am also a student and work part time, I know how you feel about the shitty gas mileage (even thought you have to pay a lot more than I do). I just try to be easy on the throttle, but its really hard. ;)

rbrais 02-03-2009 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by seb421 (Post 198495)
Fuel isn't cheep at all here it's a joke! We pay from 88pence to a pound per L of standard unleaded petrol.
Bugga me those are big carbs!
I'm loveing the grunt tho it kills my mates R6 from the lights and out the corners. The bike is totaly standard, it's a 2000 model naught new in 2002 so I think it may have this smaller tank then.
One more thing how far will it genealy go or run for on the reserve light? I've done about 10 miles on the reserve light today and it's 2 miles to the petrol station will It cope? As I have still screwed the ass off it in reserve?
Hope I don't bin this bike it has a massive gin factor!

I think there is about a 1 gal reserve, so figure around 30 miles til empty, but I wouldn't push it. I fill up within about 10 miles of the light coming on.

Try this. It is a 4.2 Gal tank. See how much you put in when the light first comes on.

Tweety 02-03-2009 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by rbrais (Post 198497)
I think there is about a 1 gal reserve, so figure around 30 miles til empty, but I wouldn't push it. I fill up within about 10 miles of the light coming on.

Try this. It is a 4.2 Gal tank. See how much you put in when the light first comes on.

Actually .8 gallons or 3 liter reserve... And yeah... Take it nice and you'll get to the station and a bit more...

RK1 02-03-2009 02:33 PM

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=12381

This is an old thread about the mileage you can squeeze from a VTR if you ride it like your grandma would.

1zeppfan 02-03-2009 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by FRANKSVTR (Post 198400)
I have seen 50mpg before on a roadtrip going 65 with stock gearing

55 was the best I got on a road trip. That was laying on the tank for hours on end. 2400 in four days.

E.Marquez 02-03-2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by rbrais (Post 198497)
I think there is about a 1 gal reserve, so figure around 30 miles til empty,

Far as I know,, if most anyone here were to try and go 30 miles after the fuel light,, they would be pushing the last 10~12 miles.

I know for a fact I would... (or CTW4F)

Tweety 02-03-2009 03:11 PM

Actually 32 is what I got from RLOD to CTW4F last I tried... But then I was riding like the turtle grandma passed on the way to church... Usually around 15-20 wich should cover seb going to the station...

cameron 02-03-2009 03:15 PM

i cant say that i ever pay any attention to my mpg cause im allways ready for a break before im out of gas.

RK1 02-03-2009 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by TXSuperChicken (Post 198545)
Far as I know,, if most anyone here were to try and go 30 miles after the fuel light,, they would be pushing the last 10~12 miles.

I know for a fact I would... (or CTW4F)

That depends on how your bike is set up/tuned, and what you do with your right hand. I've proven to myself that I can go 36 miles at about 62 mph after the light comes on. When I'm riding where distance between available fuel stops is in question, I pack a couple or three quarts of fuel on the back of the bike. I've never been stranded.

k-d-williams 02-03-2009 04:14 PM

My reserve light comes on around 140 miles and takes about 3.2 gallons to fill her up at that point if I stop at a station. I only run "AvGas" 100 Octane in my bike unless I am away from home or road tripping.

11strings 02-03-2009 07:37 PM

I know I'm down here in Texas where the oxygen is rich, but I didn't think it'd make that much difference. I'm getting nearly 150 miles on a tank BEFORE the light comes on, and that's on stock gears (16-41). 30 miles after the light isn't a stretch, but it doesn't allow much play either. All of that is with me rolling at least 75% on the throttle. Not light handed at all....

Hawkrider 02-03-2009 11:05 PM

CTW4F....Lemme guess: Call The Wife For Fuel?

Erik S. 02-04-2009 05:49 AM

Damn, I really need to balance and jet my carbs. 150? 120, then maybe 20 miles after the light. Dunno what it would be if I kept my wrist out of it. Normal cruise is 85 MPH.


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