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FTL900 10-25-2013 08:50 AM

Ethanol is bad for bikes, and it's getting worse.
 
You can use this link (bottom of the page) to write your congressman. It only takes a moment, and the email is already filled out. Feel free to edit as you wish before sending. It sends it to your correct state representative based on your zip code.

American Motorcyclist Association

insulinboy 10-25-2013 09:01 AM

Thanks! sent mine in.. My jet ski's hated even the E10 fuel.. Took me forever to find a fuel station near the lake that sold 100% gasoline.. of course due to regs they no longer do and have had to move to E10.. I was more than happy to pay the extra price for real gas. Ethanol and 2 stroke oil don't mix well

7moore7 10-25-2013 09:44 AM

Good find.

Fistfullofthrotl718 10-25-2013 01:26 PM

I'm sure most of you know this but there might be one or two that could benifit. If non-e fuel is delivered from the same pump as e-10 (or e-15), then your first half gallon is whatever the person before you used. There could be any grade and ethonal contain still in the line until it is flushed out by pumping. This is the unfortunate truth by me. Not to mention there is only premium non- ethanol fuel in most stops. It's a 20 mile ride one direction to get a true non ethanol pump with different grades. Not that I mind taking the ride but damn, by the time I get back I have to refuel again.

insulinboy 10-25-2013 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Fistfullofthrotl718 (Post 364455)
I'm sure most of you know this but there might be one or two that could benifit. If non-e fuel is delivered from the same pump as e-10 (or e-15), then your first half gallon is whatever the person before you used. There could be any grade and ethonal contain still in the line until it is flushed out by pumping. This is the unfortunate truth by me. Not to mention there is only premium non- ethanol fuel in most stops. It's a 20 mile ride one direction to get a true non ethanol pump with different grades. Not that I mind taking the ride but damn, by the time I get back I have to refuel again.

I always go to a store with separate pump handles for each grade of fuel. Unless I'm in my truck.. its a flex fuel so I don't care what goes in it and always pump 87 :lol:

7moore7 10-25-2013 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Fistfullofthrotl718 (Post 364455)
I'm sure most of you know this but there might be one or two that could benifit. If non-e fuel is delivered from the same pump as e-10 (or e-15), then your first half gallon is whatever the person before you used. There could be any grade and ethonal contain still in the line until it is flushed out by pumping. This is the unfortunate truth by me. Not to mention there is only premium non- ethanol fuel in most stops. It's a 20 mile ride one direction to get a true non ethanol pump with different grades. Not that I mind taking the ride but damn, by the time I get back I have to refuel again.

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

Same here. All of them are so far out of my way that if ethanol free were absolutely required for my bike then it would cease to be a commuter.

smokinjoe73 10-25-2013 05:35 PM

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That reminds me, I have been meaning to post this.

I think I posted the article of how easy it is to remove ethanol. Its hygroscopic so you pretty much ad 2% water, shake, then 1.5hrs later drain the water/ethanol out the bottom. (you used a valved upsidedown gascan right).

7moore7 10-25-2013 06:17 PM

Is there a bigger picture of that article, joe? I would be very interested in experimenting with this!

smokinjoe73 10-25-2013 08:22 PM

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Photo bucket is better. I wll find the full procedural article. BTW, this mag is by far the best, most informative motomag out there. No advertisments mean they can tell the truth. Pricier but worth it.

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smokinjoe73 10-26-2013 09:56 AM

Ok, this seems to be the most concise info about ethanol removal.

How to make your own ethanol-free gasoline • GL1800 DIY Articles • goldwingdocs.com

20_rc51_00 10-31-2013 09:19 PM

The good thing is that legislation in canada is worded to the effect that all gas offered has to have at least x% etoh combined or something like that so most of the stations distribute the x percent in the low and mid grade and leave the premium etoh free! Lost of places to find pure gas here in Alberta.

20_rc51_00 10-31-2013 09:24 PM

you can also go with aviation gas iirc

MotoHawk 11-05-2013 04:06 AM

av gas is pretty pricey. Many small prop planes convert their egines to run on ethanol mixed car gas just for the price savings.

davidka 11-05-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by MotoHawk (Post 364851)
av gas is pretty pricey. Many small prop planes convert their egines to run on ethanol mixed car gas just for the price savings.

It is also 100 octane with a significant amount of lead. They call it low-lead (100LL), but it's ~4x more lead than we had in auto gas before.

Lefin102 11-06-2013 06:20 AM

I use ave gas 100LL to winterize my bikes. The ones that are in long term storage are also filled with 100LL. You can leave it without the worry of problems later. Stabilizer is only good for so long anyway even with non ethanol fuel.

CruxGNZ 11-06-2013 06:30 PM

Did all you guys get the return email? I have no idea if our Wisconsin guy signed it or not. I hate politics and politicians and have no clue what happened.

7moore7 11-07-2013 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by CruxGNZ (Post 364891)
Did all you guys get the return email? I have no idea if our Wisconsin guy signed it or not. I hate politics and politicians and have no clue what happened.

Only one of the 9 in AZ signed contrary to their parties' requirements (in favor of e15 I might add). The Republocrats are tediously predictable...


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