The awesome of 16-43
Just went to 16/43 on my bike. It rocks. Front end comes up very easy in first and clutches up nicely in second. The biggest improvement is how much harder it pulls on the freeway in 5th and 6th gear. Thats all I have to say.
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wicked, how much higher is it revving at highway speeds now?
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Originally Posted by uchi
(Post 235420)
wicked, how much higher is it revving at highway speeds now?
Not much diferent. 5000 on the tach is about an indicated 80 mph. 5500 is about an idicated 90 mph. Which is really more like 72 mph to 81 mph. It pulls very nicely and my fuel millage does not look like it has been affected to bad. |
right on, i may have to drop a tooth in the front on mine over the winter. i think between that my k&n full bafflectomy and the jet kit thatarrived today i should be pretty damn happy :D
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15/43 is even better!
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Originally Posted by uchi
(Post 235420)
wicked, how much higher is it revving at highway speeds now?
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Just went to a 16-43 set up myself.
Change is quite noticable. Scared myself at a few red lights on my commute last week ;-) |
Originally Posted by t-dogg
(Post 235433)
15/43 is even better!
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I would love to do 15/43 but I do to much freeway comuting.
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i know i went -2 +1 on my race quad and the difference was huge. although it felt like my 5th topped out where my 4th used to
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Originally Posted by Vega (streetfighter)
(Post 235441)
I would love to do 15/43 but I do to much freeway comuting.
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Originally Posted by REDVTR1000
(Post 235448)
i do 60mi a day, 52 of that is all highway. i have no problems. I cruise at 5000-5500. a little weird at first but after a while you get used to it. i get about 35mpg which is not bad for a hawk.
About how fast are you going at 5000-5500 with the 15/43 gearing set up? |
I had 15/43 and now have 16/43... Prefer the 16/43...
I ride interstate, and lots of back roads, so it doesn't kill the mpg as bad at same speed, but it throws the front end up way better than stock... When i got my tires swapped out, i went back to stock rear sprocket for about 3-4 day's... then decided i didn't notice enough difference in rpm to not have the better performance.... after doing some non mathematical math.. i reached the conclusion that i was only seeing about a 200-300rmp change in that gear swap... |
im a big guy and ive got a hard enough time keeping the front end down with stock gearing. if i roll into it in first she comes up, if i snap it in first well she comes up but much much harder, lol. ill be doing a gear swap anyway just gotta hold on and enjoy the ride i guess. lol
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Originally Posted by joshuatest
(Post 235455)
after doing some non mathematical math..
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Originally Posted by divingindaytona
(Post 235468)
So that would be what? Algicalculnometry?
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I have 16/43 set up. Like a dirtbike, I feel it is better to enlarge the rear sprocket for gearing rather than go smaller on the front. My reason is this; drag. The smaller diameter of the 15 tooth sprocket will cause more drag on the chain slider on the swingarm. Now how much drag and or power reduction is caused by this on the SH I do not know. So I opted to not to go that route and added two teeth to the rear sprocket instead.
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Originally Posted by Vega (streetfighter)
(Post 235414)
Just went to 16/43 on my bike. It rocks. Front end comes up very easy in first and clutches up nicely in second. The biggest improvement is how much harder it pulls on the freeway in 5th and 6th gear. Thats all I have to say.
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15/42 (-1/+1) is a good middle-ground. In terms of ratio, it's equivalent to going up 3.8 teeth on the rear sprocket, as opposed to 15/43, which is equivalent to going up 4.87 teeth on the rear. Dropping 1 on the front by itself is actually more of a hit than going up 2 on the rear. Thus, in order from tallest to shortest, here's the combinations that I understand will work with the stock chain:
Front/Rear (Equivalent teeth up on rear) 17/41 (-2.41) 16/41 (+0) -Stock 16/42 (+1) 16/43 (+2) 15/41 (+2.73) 15/42 (+3.8) 15/43 (+4.87) Not sure, but I don't think there's enough adjuster slack to allow 16/44 (+0/+3) with the stock chain, but someone who's tried may be able to confirm or deny. |
I'm using 16/43 and I think that is about the limit for the stock chain. Somewhere here is a spreadsheet that gives the numerical calculations and the MPH at various RPMs for different tooth set ups.
I recall that for 16/43 in 6th within a tenth or so 3000rpm=50mph, 4500=75mph, 6000=100mph. I don't run a speedohealer, but with numbers this easy I just use my tach and convert in my head |
well considering there is only a 200-300rpm difference... its easy to have an idea how fast your going... drop 300rpm, and that should give you a idea
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get a speedo healer and FORGETABOUTIT:)
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Originally Posted by Vega (streetfighter)
(Post 235454)
About how fast are you going at 5000-5500 with the 15/43 gearing set up?
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after loosing to that vetrte the other day im gonna regear with a 15/42 setup. question is what sprockets do i buy? am i safe with an ebay sprocket combo? ive got one on my race quad and its holding up great, id like something thats gonna last but that wont break the bank. what do you guys suggest?
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also any word on this place?
http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/1618...00f-97-06.html sorry to thread jack not my intention :) your swap just has me excited for a new level of power :) |
Originally Posted by uchi
(Post 236401)
after loosing to that vetrte the other day im gonna regear with a 15/42 setup. question is what sprockets do i buy? am i safe with an ebay sprocket combo? ive got one on my race quad and its holding up great, id like something thats gonna last but that wont break the bank. what do you guys suggest?
Originally Posted by uchi
(Post 236402)
also any word on this place?
http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/1618...00f-97-06.html sorry to thread jack not my intention :) your swap just has me excited for a new level of power :) |
Originally Posted by Galaxieman
(Post 235525)
Not sure, but I don't think there's enough adjuster slack to allow 16/44 (+0/+3) with the stock chain, but someone who's tried may be able to confirm or deny.
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Originally Posted by Tweety
(Post 236451)
Any decent quality steel sprocket is just fine... If you go for an aluminium one, buy expensive and be prepared to do so often... A big twin eats aluminium sprockets as snacks...
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I run 15/43 and couldn't be happier. I'm not a stunter but do enjoy power wheelies and for what it's worth, everything is underpowered up here in Denver compared with sea level. I commute everyday and find the power very useable but certainly notice less pull at triple digits. After some trouble with the law I don't miss the top speed, personally, if I can beat everybody to 100 mph and then I get dusted that’s good enough with me. But I know for some it's not...
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Originally Posted by uchi
(Post 236401)
after loosing to that vetrte the other day im gonna regear with a 15/42 setup. question is what sprockets do i buy? am i safe with an ebay sprocket combo? ive got one on my race quad and its holding up great, id like something thats gonna last but that wont break the bank. what do you guys suggest?
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