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superbling 03-12-2008 08:59 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that Superchicken
 
is a slur?

divingindaytona 03-12-2008 09:14 PM

They are just jealous

RK1 03-12-2008 09:21 PM

It is kind of a slur or self depreciating if you use it yourself, but is "super hawk" really much better? I always call it my VTR 'cause Super Hawk sounds dorky to me.

I don't think the Japanese are very good at naming things. Some of the best names were for WWII fighter planes. Mustang, Hellcat, Spitfire. The Japanese fighter was called the Zero, probably one of the reasons they lost the war.

superbling 03-12-2008 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by RK1 (Post 155582)
I don't think the Japanese are very good at naming things. Some of the best names were for WWII fighter planes. Mustang, Hellcat, Spitfire. The Japanese fighter was called the Zero, probably one of the reasons they lost the war.

Then I turn it around back at you: name one fighter with chicken in the name?

lazn 03-12-2008 09:23 PM

I see it like the firechicken or screaming chicken nickname that the "Smokey and the Bandit" car has.

superbling 03-12-2008 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by lazn (Post 155584)
I see it like the firechicken or screaming chicken nickname that the "Smokey and the Bandit" car has.


I grew up on farms and chickens were, well, chickens. Hawks are birds of prey.

sassage 03-12-2008 09:26 PM

I don't see anything wrong with it

RK1 03-12-2008 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by superbling (Post 155583)
Then I turn it around back at you: name one fighter with chicken in the name?

Of course there is no fighter plane named after chickens... or bunny rabbits or toy poodles! And like I said, that would be a slur or self depreciating.

I just personally don't like Super Hawk very much either. I'm not sure why.

GeMs 03-12-2008 09:38 PM

I think they should of just called it the "Honda Hawk". The added super is like when we were kids making up superheros. I like subtle names.

RK1 03-12-2008 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by GeMs (Post 155590)
I think they should of just called it the "Honda Hawk". The added super is like when we were kids making up superheros. I like subtle names.


I think you're right. At least they didn't call it the "Super Duper Hawk".

GeMs 03-12-2008 09:48 PM

Thats exactly what I was thinking when I first looked it up. I remember saying "Why SuperHawk?" It is an amazing bike for what it is, but I think they did over do the name.

superbling 03-12-2008 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by RK1 (Post 155589)
Of course there is no fighter plane named after chickens... or bunny rabbits or toy poodles! And like I said, that would be a slur or self depreciating.

I just personally don't like Super Hawk very much either. I'm not sure why.

There has all ready been one 305cc superhawk in the US model line up back in the 60's which help connect the performance image to the honda name.

Naming a big 1000cc V and linking historically with the same twin heritage makes sense to me.

superbling 03-12-2008 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by RK1 (Post 155591)
I think you're right. At least they didn't call it the "Super Duper Hawk".

Opps, I linked to the wrong reply. See above.

RK1 03-12-2008 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by superbling (Post 155595)
There has all ready been one 305cc superhawk in the US model line up back in the 60's which help connect the performance image to the honda name.

Naming a big 1000cc V and linking historically with the same twin lingo makes sense to me.

You're right about that and our bikes are also the successor to the 650cc Hawk GT of the late '80s. I understand the lineage of the name. I'm just not crazy about it. But I'm a thousand times more interested in what it is than what it's called. I'm mostly just trying to have a little fun, maybe cause a little mischief etc.

I never call my bike Super Chicken. I just prefer VTR over Super Hawk.

superbling 03-12-2008 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by RK1 (Post 155597)
I never call my bike Super Chicken. I just prefer VTR over Super Hawk.

Me too. I've just never felt superchicken as a positive in any sense of the term. The polling so far doesn't agree tho'!

RK1 03-12-2008 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by superbling (Post 155598)
Me too. I've just never felt superchicken as a positive term in any sense of the term. The polling so far doesn't agree tho'!

Yeah, Super Chicken sounds like a slur to me, but I guess it depends how it is said and intended. Guys who flew the P-47 in WWII called it "The Jug". In Vietnam they called the F-105 "The Thud". Those names could be heard as slurs, but in both cases they were actually terms of endearment.

GeMs 03-12-2008 10:42 PM

People can call it what ever they want. They are just jealous that their bike or lack there of, doesnt sound as good or is as much fun as ours. Superchicken is like an owners only name for our bike.

RK1 03-12-2008 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by GeMs (Post 155600)
People can call it what ever they want. They are just jealous that their bike or lack there of, doesnt sound as good or is as much fun as ours. Superchicken is like an owners only name for our bike.

Exactly. I've got the bike I want. Don't care what it's called. I bought my VTR new for a smidge over $6k. I'd just refied the homestead, was flush with cash and would have spent $11k for a SS literbike or $18k for a Ducati if that was what I wanted. I got exactly the ride I wanted. Well actually, when I redo the forks and get the Penske shock, I'll have exactly the bike I want.

Veles 03-12-2008 11:15 PM

i think firestorm is a much better name but i can see the super hawk link to the olde vtr

RK1 03-12-2008 11:40 PM

I look at it this way, and I've said it before. There are two kinds of guys who ride VTRs.

The guys who want the bike which posted the fastest ET in Motorcyclist or fastest lap time in Sport Rider, but don't have the bucks and bought a VTR 'cause it's the hotest bike they could afford.

Then there are guys like me who realize the VTR is one of the best real world sporty-sport street bike ever made. Guys from the first group call it a Super Chicken. Guys like me call it the VTR.

RK1 03-12-2008 11:50 PM

My name isn't Casey Stoner or Danny Pedrosa. The guys who could run away from me on a twisty road, on an R1 or GSXR1000 are the same guys who could run away from me on another VTR. Or probably on a '76 RD400!

434josh 03-13-2008 03:27 AM

For some reason in motorsports, birds seem to be associated with chickens. Ex. the Ford super coupe thunderbird was named the super chicken and the turbo coupe from early 80's was the turbo chicken.

The chicken is not nearly as ominous looking as what I would imagine a Thunder Bird or Super Hawk.

poorider 03-13-2008 04:24 AM

Ha Ha my bike is not called Superhawk at all. It is called Firechicken...... err I think? Yes that's it, Fire...something anyway. And it's blue.
I notice on the left it says 'Squid' I don't want be 'Squid'.

autoteach 03-13-2008 06:05 AM

is that poo rider? or poor ider?

autoteach 03-13-2008 06:06 AM

I was only asking in the case that you don't like squid or superchicken...

redman 03-13-2008 06:38 AM

it says "idiot" too....:)
sorry, had to

poorider 03-13-2008 07:00 AM

I know-ppl are messing about with my stuff. I hadn't noticed that 'idiot' thing.

autoteach 03-13-2008 07:01 AM

I think that is new in the last two posts. I dont know who would have the powers to pull that off, but is surely isn't me.

lazn 03-13-2008 07:07 AM

See the old firebirds were called firechickens by the owners: http://www.motortopia.com/vehicles/v.../i/firechicken
and 90's thunderbirds thunderchickens:
http://www.motortopia.com/vehicles/v...thunderchicken
Just he whole bird motif leads to chicken.

The way I see it, if you call your own bike that way, it is a self deprecating term of endearment.. *we know how good it is, so we can talk it down.

If someone else tries to slur it, we know they just don't know what the real story is.

:)

lazn 03-13-2008 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by poorider (Post 155619)
I know-ppl are messing about with my stuff. I hadn't noticed that 'idiot' thing.

The squid part will change once you get enough posts..

The idiot thing is one of the mods messing with you. :P No clue which one, but I am sure it is just meant as a "pull your leg" kinda thing. This is a good group of guys..


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