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seattlesucks 03-10-2006 01:46 PM

1/4 mile times?
 
Post your 1/4 mile times. :D

superhawk22 03-10-2006 03:49 PM

It's been so long I can't remember, street track's are much more fun. I'll see if I can find any of my old slips around though I know I saved some.

AZZKIKER 03-10-2006 06:13 PM

The fastest I have seen as a stock bike was 10.87 sec thru Motorcyclist magazine, but that was done once by the tester and the next one was 11.17sec because the hydrauclic clutch was hard to launch.

mikecronis 03-10-2006 06:36 PM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
1/4 mile times for bikes seem to vary WILDLY everywhere you look! I've seen Shawk readings as low as 10.37 and as high as 12.1 sec. anywhere from 109mph to a rather pornographic 137mph, ALL STOCK!

Most sites agree that my wife's Honda CBR F4i can out-run my Superhawk, but I've ridden hers and it takes a l-o-n-g time to get to the teens rpms where the torque is. 60mph seems f-o-r-e-v-e-r to get to and it's buzzin' like I'm sittin' on a hornet's nest! I've also raced against CBR 600RR bikes and I wasn't even trying to keep up. The CBR rider informed me he was red-lining it the whole way.

I know numbers are cold but there's got to be some sort of bias here in the bike world. You don't see this kind of bias in cars, maybe a tenth here or there, depending. Perhaps temperature and altitude play a much heavier roll in carb'ed vs. injected bikes?

I think the concensus is around 121 mph in 11.3 sec. give or take.

cb21983 03-11-2006 12:07 AM

My best personal time was a 12.4 @ 112 .... This was my first time ever at a track so I think with some practice I could easily get it in the low 11s.

EngineNoO9 03-11-2006 09:53 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 

Originally Posted by mikecronis";p=&quot (Post 18550)
1/4 mile times for bikes seem to vary WILDLY everywhere you look! I've seen Shawk readings as low as 10.37 and as high as 12.1 sec. anywhere from 109mph to a rather pornographic 137mph, ALL STOCK!

Most sites agree that my wife's Honda CBR F4i can out-run my Superhawk, but I've ridden hers and it takes a l-o-n-g time to get to the teens rpms where the torque is. 60mph seems f-o-r-e-v-e-r to get to and it's buzzin' like I'm sittin' on a hornet's nest! I've also raced against CBR 600RR bikes and I wasn't even trying to keep up. The CBR rider informed me he was red-lining it the whole way.

I know numbers are cold but there's got to be some sort of bias here in the bike world. You don't see this kind of bias in cars, maybe a tenth here or there, depending. Perhaps temperature and altitude play a much heavier roll in carb'ed vs. injected bikes?

I think the concensus is around 121 mph in 11.3 sec. give or take.


there's no way the f4i will. MAYBE the 600rr, r6, or 636 from 100+ but from a dig they have no prayer. Whatever sites said that are just haters cause the f4i is not exactly a horsepower monster or a super screamer like the super sport 600's

denmah 03-11-2006 11:18 PM

my friend busted 10.7s with slip ons. so, 11s shouldent be too hard to pull

mikecronis 03-12-2006 12:40 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
I totally agree with EngineNo9! Still, all cycle-mags say the F4i and most other 600cc sportbikes are even with or beat the SHawk. After riding a few 600cc sportbikes, to the magazine editors, I beg to differ.

Perhaps there's an experteise level on 600cc sportbikes. Perhaps the testers are more accustommed to them versus liter-bikes? If a Ducati tester compared an F4i to a SHawk, since the Duck is similar to a SHawk (well, the ST3 anyway) wouldn't the results be different than say, Cycle World?

Though I subscribe to a few of the magazines in question, I find most of them are afraid to step on toes with reviews. Look how magazines are raving about the Ninja 650 that just came out! I went to the big expo in Denver and it's pretty fugly. It's a parallel twin? Yuck! Why are mags drooling over this Ninja 500R do-over? They deny it's a do-over but oh it's really just a Euro-port. Sure, whatever. Isn't the 636 enough? Specs on the 636 kill the 650. Still, some mag articles grudgingly admit it's not THAT good a bike.

I only wish mags were less brown-nosey like say, Sports Car International. If the car sucks, they SAY so. Maybe I can convince them to make a cycle mag. They did an article on bikes once but the cage afficiendos got grumpy.

EngineNoO9 03-13-2006 06:48 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
most 600 riders I know are still in the 11's. the shawk should do 10's and low 11's for an average rider. but 600's even the new r6 are going to have issues keeping up. The s-hawk just gets off the line so quick with the massive amounts of torque.

Les 03-13-2006 08:18 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
Engine,

Is your point that the average rider is going to do a quicker 1/4 mile time on the SH?

An expert rider on a new R6 is going to walk all over a SH in the 1/4 and on the track.

Jim TT 03-13-2006 12:44 PM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
When you start talking 1/4 mile times there is always a lot of BS :oops: that comes out ( of course none of us would do that). I look at web sights like Drag Times.com to get a basic idea of what people are really doing. First of all if you can put a Super Hawk into the 10s I want to be there to see it because it would be the fastest time I have ever heard of for a SH (the fastest time I know of is 11.274 @ 125.18MPH) and I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run. I do agree that F41 will most likely loose to Super Hawk as the fasted times I have seen are 11.498 for an F3 and 11.339 @ 126.54 for an RR. I do think times vary for two good reasons, one is some of us weigh a lot more than others and more importantly launching a bike takes a lot of SKILL, as is A LOT. Ricky Gatson explained his technique and I have practiced it since I think he is the best there is, but how do you teach reaction time?

EngineNoO9 03-13-2006 05:20 PM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 

Originally Posted by Les";p=&quot (Post 18665)
Engine,

Is your point that the average rider is going to do a quicker 1/4 mile time on the SH?

An expert rider on a new R6 is going to walk all over a SH in the 1/4 and on the track.

from a dig the superhawk will beat the r6. only at like around 100mph will the r6 start to pull hard

vitter 03-30-2006 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jim TT";p=&quot (Post 18670)
When you start talking 1/4 mile times there is always a lot of BS :oops: that comes out ( of course none of us would do that). I look at web sights like Drag Times.com to get a basic idea of what people are really doing. First of all if you can put a Super Hawk into the 10s I want to be there to see it because it would be the fastest time I have ever heard of for a SH (the fastest time I know of is 11.274 @ 125.18MPH) and I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run. I do agree that F41 will most likely loose to Super Hawk as the fasted times I have seen are 11.498 for an F3 and 11.339 @ 126.54 for an RR. I do think times vary for two good reasons, one is some of us weigh a lot more than others and more importantly launching a bike takes a lot of SKILL, as is A LOT. Ricky Gatson explained his technique and I have practiced it since I think he is the best there is, but how do you teach reaction time?

reaction time has nothing at all with 1/4 mile time.

Texassuperhawk 03-31-2006 12:50 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
I don't know how you guys can even launch the SHawk to do a decent quarter. Last time I tried I almost got thrown. It was as if the clutch was saying "you ain't slippin me out chump".

Jim TT 03-31-2006 07:05 AM

Vitter, OK point taken. Anything esle to add?

Randman 03-31-2006 08:43 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
I once new this guy, that had a friend, of an uncle on his wife's side, who new a guy that was watching a race next to his brothers' son's mothers house, and the superhawk he was on pulled like 4 g's and ran the quarter in like 6 seconds............no, no really it's true, cause he said so.....you can't argue that logic :P :P :P


Nah, I was just kidding, it was more like 2 g's and 8 seconds, but it was into the wind, and uphill, so you gotta give kudos to that guy :P :P

BirdofParadise 03-31-2006 10:05 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
Yeah, I remember hearing that from my younger sister's friend's brother Barney's ex-girfriend's cousin Joe's dad's friend Eugeene at a church mud wrestling event. Only I think the guy was going in reverse and the track had some slush on it from a recent hail storm.

Too bad I bet he could have gotten better times with ideal conditions.

Randman 03-31-2006 11:47 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
Ideal conditions, heck yeah....you probably would not even see em go by....just a rush of air, and a smeeeer blurr of color....shew we, wish I had me one of dem machines....

BirdofParadise 03-31-2006 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by vitter";p=&quot (Post 19567)

Originally Posted by Jim TT";p=&quot (Post 18670)
When you start talking 1/4 mile times there is always a lot of BS :oops: that comes out ( of course none of us would do that). I look at web sights like Drag Times.com to get a basic idea of what people are really doing. First of all if you can put a Super Hawk into the 10s I want to be there to see it because it would be the fastest time I have ever heard of for a SH (the fastest time I know of is 11.274 @ 125.18MPH) and I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run. I do agree that F41 will most likely loose to Super Hawk as the fasted times I have seen are 11.498 for an F3 and 11.339 @ 126.54 for an RR. I do think times vary for two good reasons, one is some of us weigh a lot more than others and more importantly launching a bike takes a lot of SKILL, as is A LOT. Ricky Gatson explained his technique and I have practiced it since I think he is the best there is, but how do you teach reaction time?

reaction time has nothing at all with 1/4 mile time.

So when the light turns green it doesn't matter when I give it the gas.
That is good to know since I react much slower these days.

jwarriner 04-03-2006 07:43 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
What techniques are being used when people run their Superhawk at the strip? I've heard of some riders preloading the shifter and letting the engine bounce off the limiter to shift and getting much better times than the magazines can get on the same bike. I can't imagine it's great for the bike and I'd think this has the potential to hang the front tire. Any thoughts from those who are actually experienced at the strip?

mikstr 04-03-2006 08:05 AM

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 
[quote]I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run.

Cycle World got a sub-11 second quarter (forget if it was 10.91 or 10.87 now) at 125 mph with the VTR in a comparo they did between the 1998 VTR, TL-S, 916 and Daytona 955. It is the only such time I have seen though.

cheers
Mikstr

Loco 04-03-2006 09:19 AM

I actually just spoke in depth with an experienced drag racer, and he rides a 2005 Suzuki SV1000. Its a v-twin, with more power than the VTR even. He has a badass setup, where he can pull a nylon strap below his handlebars while pushing down on his forks, to lock them in place. The end result is a bike that sits about 5 inches lower than a superhawk or SV (which rides wayy high to being with). I sat on it, and I could space my legs at two feet off each side still touching ground (i'm only 5'10").

vitter 04-03-2006 10:16 AM

[quote="BirdofParadise";p="19602"]

Originally Posted by vitter";p=&quot (Post 19567)


So when the light turns green it doesn't matter when I give it the gas.
That is good to know since I react much slower these days.

correct. the timer doesn't start until your font tire moves. This is only good for getting times, cause a slower guy with a faster reaction time can win the race.

jwarriner 04-03-2006 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Loco";p=&quot (Post 19743)
I actually just spoke in depth with an experienced drag racer, and he rides a 2005 Suzuki SV1000. Its a v-twin, with more power than the VTR even. He has a badass setup, where he can pull a nylon strap below his handlebars while pushing down on his forks, to lock them in place. The end result is a bike that sits about 5 inches lower than a superhawk or SV (which rides wayy high to being with). I sat on it, and I could space my legs at two feet off each side still touching ground (i'm only 5'10").

Ah, strapping. Yeah, guys who drag race with FWD cars will do this to their front suspension. You're left, obviously, with no suspension travel. Incredibly dangerous on a car at high enough speeds, if the car gets upset at all you'll be done. It seems to be a much safer practice on motorcycles. I have no experience with this but it seems some simple knowledge of physics tells you that if the front is lower, when the rider leans forward, his own body weight will have more of an effect on keeping the front down.

I sat on an SV1000S, just like the 650, the seat dug into my inner thighs. It's a cool looking bike with the full fairing though. I probably would have gotten the SV650S a long time ago as a first bike if it were more comfortable for me. In the end I think I'll be happier with the Superhawk.

nothing 05-13-2009 07:45 PM

back from the dead....

but this evening I ran a 11.8 @112 with 15/42 sprockets and slipons. the sprockets really kill my top end it seemed...all naked, wouldnt stay down in 1st 2nd or 3rd :eek:

LineArrayNut 05-13-2009 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Texassuperhawk (Post 81458)
I don't know how you guys can even launch the SHawk to do a decent quarter. Last time I tried I almost got thrown. It was as if the clutch was saying "you ain't slippin me out chump".

+1

I could slip the clutch to easy skim wheelies through first and power shift second pinned WFO to get low 11's on my '90 ZX-7. I tried that on the S'Hawk and about shit myself when it reared up and tried to throw me off. No matter what I do I don't have the balls to launch hard and full throttle in first all the way to second; when it starts to come up I short shift it...:(

VTRsurfer 05-13-2009 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jim TT (Post 80562)
When you start talking 1/4 mile times there is always a lot of BS :oops: that comes out ( of course none of us would do that). I look at web sights like Drag Times.com to get a basic idea of what people are really doing. First of all if you can put a Super Hawk into the 10s I want to be there to see it because it would be the fastest time I have ever heard of for a SH (the fastest time I know of is 11.274 @ 125.18MPH) and I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run. I do agree that F41 will most likely loose to Super Hawk as the fasted times I have seen are 11.498 for an F3 and 11.339 @ 126.54 for an RR. I do think times vary for two good reasons, one is some of us weigh a lot more than others and more importantly launching a bike takes a lot of SKILL, as is A LOT. Ricky Gatson explained his technique and I have practiced it since I think he is the best there is, but how do you teach reaction time?

I read that it actually was Ricky Gatson who got the 10.8 on the SuperHawk. But I'm not sure if he did it for Motorcyclist or another Mag. I know that Motorcyclist uses it's own riders for testing, and if they bring in a Pro, they don't use those results on the stats page.

It's all about the launch and how much you like your clutch. I like mine, so no 1/4 mile runs for me.

RK1 05-13-2009 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jim TT (Post 80562)
When you start talking 1/4 mile times there is always a lot of BS :oops: that comes out ( of course none of us would do that). I look at web sights like Drag Times.com to get a basic idea of what people are really doing. First of all if you can put a Super Hawk into the 10s I want to be there to see it because it would be the fastest time I have ever heard of for a SH (the fastest time I know of is 11.274 @ 125.18MPH) and I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run. I do agree that F41 will most likely loose to Super Hawk as the fasted times I have seen are 11.498 for an F3 and 11.339 @ 126.54 for an RR. I do think times vary for two good reasons, one is some of us weigh a lot more than others and more importantly launching a bike takes a lot of SKILL, as is A LOT. Ricky Gatson explained his technique and I have practiced it since I think he is the best there is, but how do you teach reaction time?

First (bone stock) VTR tested by Motorcycle.com ran 10.83 @ 127.32

http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs...1997-3360.html

The original test by Motorcycle Consumer News ran 10.9 something.

With a few mods and a Ricky Gadsen aboard, I think low-mid tens wouldn't be a problem.

I'm talking about what the bike is capable of, not what the average amateur dude can do with it.

shorthawk 05-13-2009 10:27 PM

Got 10.89.
But my Bike is hardly a SHawk
Lost 45 pounds, gained 15HP, changed frame, fairings, exhaust, intake, suspension, electrics, gears .
Spent months molding carbon fiber,
Still beats my 1098 on some tracks...!!!
and it's a 98!

rbrais 05-14-2009 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jim TT (Post 80562)
When you start talking 1/4 mile times there is always a lot of BS :oops: that comes out ( of course none of us would do that). I look at web sights like Drag Times.com to get a basic idea of what people are really doing. First of all if you can put a Super Hawk into the 10s I want to be there to see it because it would be the fastest time I have ever heard of for a SH (the fastest time I know of is 11.274 @ 125.18MPH) and I do not recall any mag putting down a sub 11 second run. I do agree that F41 will most likely loose to Super Hawk as the fasted times I have seen are 11.498 for an F3 and 11.339 @ 126.54 for an RR. I do think times vary for two good reasons, one is some of us weigh a lot more than others and more importantly launching a bike takes a lot of SKILL, as is A LOT. Ricky Gatson explained his technique and I have practiced it since I think he is the best there is, but how do you teach reaction time?

If I remember correctly, Cycle World pulled off an 11.01 with a stock SH, so a decent rider with slip-ons, filter and jet-kit should break into the 10's. I wish I could get th NH international sometime to try it. 10 years motocross has got me pretty good at launching off the line.


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