Does a 1997 front brake set fit a 2005 model?
#1
Does a 1997 front brake set fit a 2005 model?
Does a 1997 front brake set (calipers, master cylinder) fit a 2005 Firestorm?
My stock setup has the black closed off metal master cylinder, whereas the 1997 has the "cup" with a screw on lid type.
The front brakes on my 2005 VTR1000 are not releasing fully, meaning the pads are always in contact with the disc. With the wheel off the ground and a decent push, the wheel only rotates about 120 degrees.
I've done the following to troubleshoot:
After this, everything appears visually fine, however I am still having issues with the brakes binding on the disc.
Hoping another set I can source locally will work in place of my stock setup.
My stock setup has the black closed off metal master cylinder, whereas the 1997 has the "cup" with a screw on lid type.
The front brakes on my 2005 VTR1000 are not releasing fully, meaning the pads are always in contact with the disc. With the wheel off the ground and a decent push, the wheel only rotates about 120 degrees.
I've done the following to troubleshoot:
- Take apart and clean calipers
- Cleaned caliper pistons and housings
- Bled system with fresh fluid
- Deliberately filled MC with less brake fluid (but still above minimum) to see if there is too much in the system
After this, everything appears visually fine, however I am still having issues with the brakes binding on the disc.
Hoping another set I can source locally will work in place of my stock setup.
#2
If I am understanding you correctly, you have this type of master cylinder.
Which is not the correct factory VTR master. They look like this:
Some guys swap out the VTR's brakes for the CBRF4i setup. So you may have that. A pic would help.
Which is not the correct factory VTR master. They look like this:
Some guys swap out the VTR's brakes for the CBRF4i setup. So you may have that. A pic would help.
#3
The top image is what I have on my 2005 Firestorm.
The bottom image is what the 1997 set has I will be purchasing to test.
My calipers are black and appear to be identical to the 1997 calipers.
Last edited by The End; 04-05-2017 at 04:14 PM.
#5
Even a parts diagram shows that as being stock: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...+05/parts.html
Regardless, I'm having troubles with it so will swap it out with the 97 set up and see if that fixes things...
#7
The 2005 model has the integrated reservoir from the factory for both brake and clutch masters. 2005 only. I believe all year VTR brake masters have 14mm pistons. Look for a 14 cast in the master cylinder body. If both have a 14, then you should be able swap them with no ill effects.
#8
The 2005 model has the integrated reservoir from the factory for both brake and clutch masters. 2005 only. I believe all year VTR brake masters have 14mm pistons. Look for a 14 cast in the master cylinder body. If both have a 14, then you should be able swap them with no ill .
Thanks - I'll give the 97 version a go. Hope that fixes it as there's a track day on this weekend!
#12
#14
Fingers crossed it works or no track day this weekend!!
#17
#18
Bit of an update:
Installed the '97 calipers and MC on to the bike and still getting the same issue.
The wheel (off the ground) rotates about 240 degrees with a decent push.
Is this just to be expected with newer pads? More meat on them so they contact the disk more?
Can't be the rotors warped as they have only done about 3,000kms since new, and there isn't one particular disc, or spot on the disc that binds. It is the entire disc in contact with the pads.
I'm a bit lost as to what it could be now......
Installed the '97 calipers and MC on to the bike and still getting the same issue.
The wheel (off the ground) rotates about 240 degrees with a decent push.
Is this just to be expected with newer pads? More meat on them so they contact the disk more?
Can't be the rotors warped as they have only done about 3,000kms since new, and there isn't one particular disc, or spot on the disc that binds. It is the entire disc in contact with the pads.
I'm a bit lost as to what it could be now......
Last edited by The End; 04-06-2017 at 01:50 PM.
#20
With calipers off wheel spins freely. I'd say 4-5 rotations.
O̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶f̶i̶t̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶r̶o̶t̶o̶r̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶g̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶f̶i̶t̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶(̶t̶o̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶c̶k̶)̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶s̶.̶
T̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶"̶m̶o̶t̶o̶d̶i̶s̶c̶"̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶c̶k̶n̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶3̶.̶5̶m̶m̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶m̶p̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶.̶ ̶C̶o̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶M̶D̶F̶0̶2̶6̶
Checked and disc is correct for the bike.
O̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶f̶i̶t̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶r̶o̶t̶o̶r̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶g̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶f̶i̶t̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶(̶t̶o̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶c̶k̶)̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶s̶.̶
T̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶"̶m̶o̶t̶o̶d̶i̶s̶c̶"̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶c̶k̶n̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶3̶.̶5̶m̶m̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶m̶p̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶.̶ ̶C̶o̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶M̶D̶F̶0̶2̶6̶
Checked and disc is correct for the bike.
Last edited by The End; 04-06-2017 at 02:25 PM.
#22
Another Update:
With the '97 calipers and MC installed, along with the OLD pads, the wheel spins about 1.5 rotations.
I'm going to leave it as that for now as the old pads have about 60% life left.
For reference, here is the difference in pad thickness between old + new:
With the '97 calipers and MC installed, along with the OLD pads, the wheel spins about 1.5 rotations.
I'm going to leave it as that for now as the old pads have about 60% life left.
For reference, here is the difference in pad thickness between old + new:
Last edited by The End; 04-06-2017 at 03:56 PM.
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