$3 Gas...It must be Summer
10-04-2012, 04:57 AM
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There's a snot-load of other options! You can write in whoever you want, or there's also the option of not voting at all...
10-04-2012, 06:58 AM
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The Obama supporters are the ones who want a free lunch. I've paid income taxes for almost 50 years.
And Obama has done everything he can to suppress oil drilling, in order to advance his "green energy" programs... with solar panels and windmills that are made in China, and paid for with Stimulus money. 'Nuff said.
Wait a minute, I forgot that Obama gave Brasil $2,000,000,000 in Stimulus money (taxpayer money, not Obama cash
) for oil production.
Offshore oil drilling, using modern less invasive techniques, Keystone, and ANWR... that's how much Obama has to do with raising gas/oil prices.
And Obama has done everything he can to suppress oil drilling, in order to advance his "green energy" programs... with solar panels and windmills that are made in China, and paid for with Stimulus money. 'Nuff said.
Wait a minute, I forgot that Obama gave Brasil $2,000,000,000 in Stimulus money (taxpayer money, not Obama cash
) for oil production.Offshore oil drilling, using modern less invasive techniques, Keystone, and ANWR... that's how much Obama has to do with raising gas/oil prices.
Obama is not offering a free lunch. When he won the last election his platform was that we'd have to do it together and it wouldn't be easy. Seems like lots of Americans want easy again. It's not going to happen.
10-04-2012, 07:29 AM
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Both parties are a wasted vote. Neither care about running the country to better the country, only to better their wallets and their friends wallets.
However, Romney will not get my vote simply because he promises to take away civil rights of individuals if elected. You can have your own moral and religious beliefs but you can not take away anyone's rights because you do not agree with what they do in their life.
Also, I don't see why anyone who makes less than $2.5 million a year would vote republican. Its unfortunate that people do support and vote for the republican candidate, yet these are the people the republicans care nothing about and want to take more of their money instead of taxing everyone equally.
However, Romney will not get my vote simply because he promises to take away civil rights of individuals if elected. You can have your own moral and religious beliefs but you can not take away anyone's rights because you do not agree with what they do in their life.
Also, I don't see why anyone who makes less than $2.5 million a year would vote republican. Its unfortunate that people do support and vote for the republican candidate, yet these are the people the republicans care nothing about and want to take more of their money instead of taxing everyone equally.
10-04-2012, 09:37 AM
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I'm north of the border, and live in an area where we have the most taxes in North America. I'm not saying anything about your presidential debat, that's all personal to you guys, however, I will take about gas prices. You guys are still lucky at 4$ + gas prices.
Left home this morning, and saw gas at 149,9/L
If you do the math, it's 5,66$/G.
In Europe, it's often even worst then us, they're at 6$ +/G.
I know that no matter who's behind the wheel of our nice government, the officials who are there to look after our welfare, all love the taxes that come from higher gas prices. Helps pay for all those limo's
Left home this morning, and saw gas at 149,9/L
If you do the math, it's 5,66$/G.In Europe, it's often even worst then us, they're at 6$ +/G.
I know that no matter who's behind the wheel of our nice government, the officials who are there to look after our welfare, all love the taxes that come from higher gas prices. Helps pay for all those limo's
10-05-2012, 08:01 PM
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I don't expect you to change your political leanings VTRsurfer, but at least read this before you try to blame gas prices on the current administration:
Robert Reich (Why Republicans Aren't Mentioning the Real Cause of Rising Prices at the Gas Pump)
Robert Reich (Why Republicans Aren't Mentioning the Real Cause of Rising Prices at the Gas Pump)
10-05-2012, 08:28 PM
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What? You're in CA, home of Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein right? I suppose you must be used to being screwed living where you do and apparently want more of it. You have NO rights in California except to pay higher taxes.
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10-05-2012, 10:31 PM
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My gripe with the current US administration is that they have denied oil drilling in ANWR and offshore (many rigs left the Gulf of Mexico when Obama called a drilling moratorium after the spill), killed the Keystone pipeline, (which would have benefited both of our countries) and denied permits to build new refineries (the main reason gas prices are climbing so quickly in California).
While all this is going on, Obama is flying all over the country (and the World) in Air Force 1. His family's bill to the taxpayers last year was $1.4 Billion, for housing, staff and transportation (Barack and Michelle fly in 2 separate planes). He traveled in $2,000,000 dollar buses (made in Canada) earlier this year while campaigning in Ohio. No limos for him when he's away from DC.
Meanwhile the current administration wants us to ditch our gas burning transportation devices for cars with windmills or solar panels on the roof. Oh, and as for that visceral sound of your Superhawk... electric motorcycles don't make any sound.
Today, regular was $4.75/gal at the station that had it for $4.19 less than 3 weeks ago. And that will raise the price of everything.
While all this is going on, Obama is flying all over the country (and the World) in Air Force 1. His family's bill to the taxpayers last year was $1.4 Billion, for housing, staff and transportation (Barack and Michelle fly in 2 separate planes). He traveled in $2,000,000 dollar buses (made in Canada) earlier this year while campaigning in Ohio. No limos for him when he's away from DC.
Meanwhile the current administration wants us to ditch our gas burning transportation devices for cars with windmills or solar panels on the roof. Oh, and as for that visceral sound of your Superhawk... electric motorcycles don't make any sound.
Today, regular was $4.75/gal at the station that had it for $4.19 less than 3 weeks ago. And that will raise the price of everything.
10-06-2012, 05:39 AM
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Just think guys, gas is at near record prices and price of barrel is "only" $90 or so. Last time gas prices were this high, the barrel was in the mid-hundreds. Just wait until the price of the barrel reaches those heights again....
Oh those poor gas companies.... hovering on the verge of bankruptcy.... jail all those f***kers, that's all they deserve for gouging us like this (of course, they are in cahoots with politicians who let it happen)......
Oh those poor gas companies.... hovering on the verge of bankruptcy.... jail all those f***kers, that's all they deserve for gouging us like this (of course, they are in cahoots with politicians who let it happen)......
10-06-2012, 07:06 AM
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My gripe with the current US administration is that they have denied oil drilling in ANWR and offshore (many rigs left the Gulf of Mexico when Obama called a drilling moratorium after the spill), killed the Keystone pipeline, (which would have benefited both of our countries) and denied permits to build new refineries (the main reason gas prices are climbing so quickly in California).
While all this is going on, Obama is flying all over the country (and the World) in Air Force 1. His family's bill to the taxpayers last year was $1.4 Billion, for housing, staff and transportation (Barack and Michelle fly in 2 separate planes). He traveled in $2,000,000 dollar buses (made in Canada) earlier this year while campaigning in Ohio. No limos for him when he's away from DC.
Meanwhile the current administration wants us to ditch our gas burning transportation devices for cars with windmills or solar panels on the roof. Oh, and as for that visceral sound of your Superhawk... electric motorcycles don't make any sound.
Today, regular was $4.75/gal at the station that had it for $4.19 less than 3 weeks ago. And that will raise the price of everything.
While all this is going on, Obama is flying all over the country (and the World) in Air Force 1. His family's bill to the taxpayers last year was $1.4 Billion, for housing, staff and transportation (Barack and Michelle fly in 2 separate planes). He traveled in $2,000,000 dollar buses (made in Canada) earlier this year while campaigning in Ohio. No limos for him when he's away from DC.
Meanwhile the current administration wants us to ditch our gas burning transportation devices for cars with windmills or solar panels on the roof. Oh, and as for that visceral sound of your Superhawk... electric motorcycles don't make any sound.
Today, regular was $4.75/gal at the station that had it for $4.19 less than 3 weeks ago. And that will raise the price of everything.
Nancy Pelosi asking to have a 757 at her disposal so she could fly home to Ca. non-stop? That's over the top. If her security needs are such that she can't fly commercial (they may be..) then she can move to where her job is, just like the rest of us.
10-06-2012, 08:19 AM
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obviously not many people are clicking the link I posted.
high gasoline prices are due to unregulated oil futures speculation...if you want to have a chance at fixing it...don't vote in the party that is now the proxy of the speculators (GOP)
high gasoline prices are due to unregulated oil futures speculation...if you want to have a chance at fixing it...don't vote in the party that is now the proxy of the speculators (GOP)
10-06-2012, 06:10 PM
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Because it's grown/fed with petroleum derived fertilizer and delivered across long (longer than necessary) distances with large, fuel chugging trucks. Oil goes up = everything goes up.
Just about everything that isn't used as it was pulled out of the ground is made of oil
Just about everything that isn't used as it was pulled out of the ground is made of oil
10-06-2012, 07:12 PM
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FWIW, I tried your link this morning and it wasn't working. Anyhow, hard to imagine the good, honest speculators of the world are responsible. After all, they only have our common interest at heart...... pure, opportunistic parasites, nothing more.......
10-06-2012, 08:27 PM
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Because it's grown/fed with petroleum derived fertilizer and delivered across long (longer than necessary) distances with large, fuel chugging trucks. Oil goes up = everything goes up.
Just about everything that isn't used as it was pulled out of the ground is made of oil
Just about everything that isn't used as it was pulled out of the ground is made of oil
10-06-2012, 08:49 PM
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That is about as narrow and naive a view as I think I have ever heard.
10-06-2012, 09:03 PM
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Put away the jump to conclusions mat. Boy, What I read was that he believes that they are largely in support of Wall Street, nothing more nothing less. Although, if I look at your quote just right I can see how the democrats invented space travel...
10-07-2012, 04:48 AM
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FYI, JFK was President during the early days of space travel and challenged the country to go to the moon. While not "inventing" space travel he certainly influenced it to a great degree and the Democrats could take more credit for that than "inventing" the Internet as Al Gore would say.
10-07-2012, 07:15 AM
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10-07-2012, 07:21 AM
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Blamecanada certainly believes it to be the fault of the GOP otherwise why he he counsel against voting for them? The misinformation embraced by people amazes me.
FYI, JFK was President during the early days of space travel and challenged the country to go to the moon. While not "inventing" space travel he certainly influenced it to a great degree and the Democrats could take more credit for that than "inventing" the Internet as Al Gore would say.
FYI, JFK was President during the early days of space travel and challenged the country to go to the moon. While not "inventing" space travel he certainly influenced it to a great degree and the Democrats could take more credit for that than "inventing" the Internet as Al Gore would say.
I actually support the republican stated view of how government should be run...but the problem is they don't actually stand for anything, they're just a proxy for special interest groups and the mega-rich.
10-07-2012, 07:23 AM
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Both parties are a wasted vote. Neither care about running the country to better the country, only to better their wallets and their friends wallets.
However, Romney will not get my vote simply because he promises to take away civil rights of individuals if elected. You can have your own moral and religious beliefs but you can not take away anyone's rights because you do not agree with what they do in their life.
Also, I don't see why anyone who makes less than $2.5 million a year would vote republican. Its unfortunate that people do support and vote for the republican candidate, yet these are the people the republicans care nothing about and want to take more of their money instead of taxing everyone equally.
However, Romney will not get my vote simply because he promises to take away civil rights of individuals if elected. You can have your own moral and religious beliefs but you can not take away anyone's rights because you do not agree with what they do in their life.
Also, I don't see why anyone who makes less than $2.5 million a year would vote republican. Its unfortunate that people do support and vote for the republican candidate, yet these are the people the republicans care nothing about and want to take more of their money instead of taxing everyone equally.
You are confused, it is Obama that will take away your rights not Romney.
10-07-2012, 07:31 AM
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10-07-2012, 08:21 AM
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10-07-2012, 09:18 AM
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He's what? I can tell you that the rest of the world does indeed not think of him that way, and the way americans keep referencing him like this is probably a large part in why he needs protection... It's to use the plainest and least possible to misunderstand wording possible... ******* arrogant...
He's the head of state in the USA, ie one nation out of 206 recognized sovereign nations... So while he might be the most important man in the US, he's most definetly not the most important man in the world...
He's the head of state in the USA, ie one nation out of 206 recognized sovereign nations... So while he might be the most important man in the US, he's most definetly not the most important man in the world...
10-07-2012, 11:00 AM
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10-07-2012, 11:19 AM
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He's what? I can tell you that the rest of the world does indeed not think of him that way, and the way americans keep referencing him like this is probably a large part in why he needs protection... It's to use the plainest and least possible to misunderstand wording possible... ******* arrogant...
He's the head of state in the USA, ie one nation out of 206 recognized sovereign nations... So while he might be the most important man in the US, he's most definetly not the most important man in the world...
He's the head of state in the USA, ie one nation out of 206 recognized sovereign nations... So while he might be the most important man in the US, he's most definetly not the most important man in the world...
10-07-2012, 03:00 PM
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Obama's presidency has been the best thing for gun makers and owners in decades. I bet the NRA is supporting his campaign.
