nath981

apersheate it!

Tweety

I like them!

Well, the thing is it's not entirely the tire, but it's a big part of it... I think I finally have dialed in my bike to where I want it chassie wise...

Case in point, a couple of days ago I was on my way home at around 10 in the evening, not much traffic... Winding but fairly sweeping single lane road with a mix of 40-60-80 speed limits (~25-37-50 Mhp) and I was moving a bit faster, doing around 100-120 (~60-75) on the bits between small villages and mostly the limit passing through the houses... And it starts raining... At first just a little... So I keep my pace... And then after a while I come up on a car going slow, pass it without slowing down... And then another... A short town section, I notice it's raining more now... And then I get the speed up out of that town again... And I find myself contemplating making a pass on a right turn, putting me outside in the turn at a 130 (~80) in pouring rain... I looked at the speedo and realized it might be a bad idea... So I dialed it down a notch and started thinking... And the thing is, with the bike setup the way it is, and with new (scrubbed in) tires and a nice HID to light my way, I felt perfectly fine doing that speed, in pouring rain, pitch dark... I wasn't even pushing it...

Now either I'm completely off my rocker, or (and?) I think I got my setup right, and good tires...

Erik S.

The first option, we know you're off your Rocker.

Second option is probably true also.

You know someone had to say it!

Tweety

You might notice that there was an and in there...

Fact is, my own reaction when I glanced at the speedo was... Oh crap! WTF am I doing?... But the thing is, it felt stable...

In fact this morning I did that same trip in bright summer weather instead... And I might have gone a bit faster... perhaps...

nath981

off your rocker or maybe a couple beers in ya.lol. Either way you're happy huh. Riding in the rain is fun but requires ginger inputs. Rode much much faster in the rain on my old Norton than anything else since. Had bigger *****, smaller brain, and more confidence on skinny *** pirellis than any tires/bikes since. OEM headlight sucks and can't even use highbeams at night. Can't see well enough to judge the speed and arc of the curve so I have to keep adjusting(sloppy riding and scary **** too-like "where the fugawee").

Looking forward to the lightness and wet grip, although the Q2s are good in the rain, but at 14.8 lbs rear, a bit heavier than I want. I'm still tearing up the rear faster than the front despite aggressive trailbraking which is now second nature. I guess engine braking and 15/44 sprocs prevent getting good mileage on the middle of the rear tire even though i stay on curvy roads as much as possible. Maybe i need a touring tire with soft sides, but the sport tires all seem to have medium rubber in the middle instead of hard. 4000 miles and I'm preparing for my goodbye-burn out.

thanks for the get back and i think i won't be able to resist the allure of the light tire regardless of the too-soft middle.

Erik S.

Tweety, I saw the "and". That's why I used "probably". We can't confirm that your setup had anything to do with it, however, we do "know" that you're off your rocker, like the rest of us.

My reaction probably would have been the same as yours... Oh crap!

nath981

or(and?)...................your speedo is optimistic. lol

What pressures are you running in your Power Pures?

uchi

thats my next tire choice. ive got bt016's now and they hold well but they wear like ****, they have about 1000 - 1300 km on them and the front has a flat patch down the middle of it and the rear is the same. seems to have worn more than id expect it to and i dont think theyll make 3000 km at this pace. and now the front is feeling really unstable in corners so im playing with air pressures again.

whats the wear like on the pure? ive got a couple other buddys that are gettng ready to jump into a set of them aswell

Tweety

It's actually between 1% and 2% optimistic above 100 mph and should be spot on under that... According to both the dyno and the GPS... So no, I'm probably nuts...


F35/R41... On the road, one down from Michelins recommended... BTW... These should be run at high pressure, less ply = more heat & more flex... Gives you lower weight and faster warm up... But run the pressure to low and you melt them...

For track the general recommendation from Michelin is F33/R30

Tweety

I'll let you know in a while on the wear... They are scrubbed in good now...

nath981

+1 uchi..........yeah. these new tires seem to stick well enough, and they're dual compound, unfortunately not the right compound in the center. They are soft on the sides which suits me fine, however the centers are medium compound whereas they need to be hard compound in order to match wear on the sides. I had bto16 on prior to the present Q2s and with a little over a thousand miles, the center was wearing. I think the michelin power pures are medium compound also, so that ain't good.

I think to get a decent matched wear in terms of sides and middle, probably gonna have to go to pilot roads or similar with hard center compound. Rear tires on the superhawk are esp vulnerable due to heavy engine braking and torque. We need hard centers/soft sides on the rear to get better mileage out of these skins.

nath981

yeah, i can dig what you're saying about less ply more pressure. makes sense. I thing I'm gonna start running more rear pressure in the rear Q2 just because of all the engine braking and torque. When I push down on it pre-ride, it seems a little too squishy at 28psi.
thanks tweety

evines